Posted on 06/28/2010 11:19:06 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie
The Rabbinical Alliance of America, which represents 850 Orthodox Rabbis, harshly criticized U.S. President Barack Obama's nominee for the Supreme Court, Elena Kagan. Kagan, 50, is set to replace retiring Justice John Paul Stevens, 90, the court's foremost liberal.
Rabbi Yehuda Levin, speaking on behalf of the body of rabbis, issued a statement explaining their position, saying:
"Ms. Kagan is Non-Kosher - not fit to serve on the supreme court or any other court. It is clear from Ms. Kagan's record on issues such as abortion-on-demand, Partial-Birth-Abortion, the radical homosexual and lesbian agenda, the "supremacy" of the anti-family panoply over religious liberties of Biblical adherents, et. al., that she will function as a flame-throwing radical, hastening society's already steep decline into Sodom and Gommorah."
Levin told CNSNews.com that his fellow rabbis and hundreds of thousands of Orthodox Jews--are confused at the Obama's choice of Kagan.
What exactly was Obama thinking, President Obama thinking, when he nominated Kagan? Because eventually, down the road, someone--or some group--is going to take the hit for the crazy decisions that Kagan is bound to make. So we would have much preferred if President Obama had given this distinction to another minority group, instead of singling out the Jews.
"We feel that Elena Kagan turns traditional Judaism on its head--from a concept of a nation of priests and holy people, she is turning it into, Lets homosexualize every segment of society. And by the way, partial-birth babies have no right to be delivered."
Senator Jeff Sessions, the leading Republican on the Judiciary Committee said that Kagan can expect hard questions regarding her ability to be a Supreme Court justice.
Sessions, who appeared on Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation" said, "She has the least experience of any nominee at least in the last 50 years."
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As much as I agree with the substance of what the rabbis say, I am very uncomfortable with injecting religion into politics.
(And I say this as someone who recently served on the Board of Directors of an Orthodox shul.)
Please see my posts #s 17 and 18.
These are the real Orthodox Rabbis. Don’t confuse them with the 80% liberal / 50% non-believer “Jews In Name Only”.
The head of this organization, Rabbi Abraham Hecht, was banned from Israel for promoting the assassination of former Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin -- he gave it a religious sanction, essentially a Jewish fatwa. Rabin was later assassinated by Yigal Amir, a man he inspired.
Question:
Is it possible for a “secular” Jew to be anti-semitic when he treats observant Jews with contempt?
Just asking. (Thanks)
I suppose it depends on how one is defining “anti-semetic”
I would defer to a native English speaker like yourself.
Yes, there are some problems along these lines, and you are OK to point it out, but you overgeneralize and exaggerate the magnitude of it.
Thanks for your reply.
No matter what the left of today will have you believe, religion has been "injected" into politics in the United States since the founding of the Republic. There are many ways in which this has played out over the years, and most of these have been non-threatening to religious freedom as a whole.
In this case, clergy advocating a mainstream political or legal position based on their religious principles is very much consistent with the historical tradition of American politics.
“I am very uncomfortable with injecting religion into politics.”
A common defense mechanism, bred into us in ghettos.
Keep your head down. Don’t bring attention to yourself.
And also why the JINOS are the face of Judaism in America.
“but you overgeneralize and exaggerate the magnitude of it”
Take the train with my father-in-law and myself one day in New Jersey.
What's so confusing about the ultra-liberal Obama nominating the ultra-liberal Kagan? The only thing confusing is the rabbis' confusion.
You people are obviously totally ignorant about Rabbi Levin and his organization. He has been in the fight against liberal Democrats and for moral sanity for decades, even running for Congress at one point. There are, unfortunately, plenty of Orthodox Jews who are “yellow dog Democrats,” but I can guarantee you that this group isn’t among them.
(And I say this as someone who recently served on the Board of Directors of an Orthodox shul.)
The Seven Noachide Laws are objectively binding on the entire non-Jewish portion of the human race. Non-Jews are even required to set up courts of law to enforce them. The "separation of religion and politics" is a modern, un-Jewish concept. It's a good ideological justification for getting the goyim to let Jews live in peace, but unfortunately in the past two hundred years many Jews seem to have gotten the mistaken idea that it's actually part of Judaism rather than a purely utilitarian position.
About three hundred years ago all Jews lived as a self-governing Theocratic community under the civil authority of the rabbinate. With moslems spreading sharia around, perhaps Jews should give some thought to returning to that polity.
The head of this organization, Rabbi Abraham Hecht, was banned from Israel for promoting the assassination of former Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin -- he gave it a religious sanction, essentially a Jewish fatwa. Rabin was later assassinated by Yigal Amir, a man he inspired.
You're way, way, way out of line. This group is Charedi, not Zionist. Also, so far as I know there is no connection between Rabbi Levin and Rabbi Hecht.
Yes, I would agree that "confused" is the wrong choice of word there. A word like "appalled" might be more appropriate.
I don’t like it when Christians try to do it and that was one of my many criticisms of Huckabee’s candidacy in ‘08. And I sure as hell am against the creeping insinuation of Islam into our society. I’d be a hypocrite if I thought it OK when Jews do it.
But thanks *so much* for the insult. As a member of an Orthodox shul who attends services every week (not to mention holidays), yeah, I’m *such* a JINO. I see that you’re a student of Dale Carnegie and “How To Win Friends And Influence People.”
You used to be one of the people here I liked. I won’t make that mistake again.
I assume that most non-Jews have as much interest in living under Halakha as I do in living under the religious laws of any other religion.
The article is about the Rabbinical Alliance of America. According to the organization's website Rabbi Hecht is the President of that organization. Rabbi Levin is its spokesperson.
Anybody who promulgates official statements from the Igud Horabbonim should be aware of the history of its President -- a man who issued what was in effect a Jewish fatwa that sanctioned the assassination of Prime Minister Rabin.
In my book, that's terrorism -- and Israel agrees with me, which is why Hecht is banned from ever entering that country.
“But thanks *so much* for the insult.”
I am very sorry and apologize for insulting you. It was not intentional. My English is, well, Israeli and very, well, direct.
I did not mean to call you a JINO.
What I meant to say was that I believe that observant Jewish people (such as yourself) need to seize the public face of Judaism away from JINOS.
And by which I mean, be active politically -— and not just for “Jewish” causes -— but moral, economic, abortion, etc.
Again, I am sorry.
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