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1 posted on 06/22/2010 6:06:14 AM PDT by kristinn
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His commanders had repeatedly requested permission to tear down the house where Ingram was killed, noting that it was often used as a combat position by the Taliban. But due to McChrystal’s new restrictions to avoid upsetting civilians, the request had been denied. “These were abandoned houses,” fumes Staff Sgt. Kennith Hicks. “Nobody was coming back to live in them.”

"One soldier shows me the list of new regulations the platoon was given. “Patrol only in areas that you are reasonably certain that you will not have to defend yourselves with lethal force,” the laminated card reads. For a soldier who has traveled halfway around the world to fight, that’s like telling a cop he should only patrol in areas where he knows he won’t have to make arrests. “Does that make any ****ing sense?” Pfc. Jared Pautsch. “We should just drop a ****ing bomb on this place. You sit and ask yourself: What are we doing here?"

We have lost this war. A poster CPL Ingram should hang in obama's office to let him understand the consequences of his decisions.

2 posted on 06/22/2010 6:09:26 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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But the only problem is that the WH has put restrictive measure on the military leaders there who in turned put restrictive measures on the troops...the WH approves of these measures!


3 posted on 06/22/2010 6:10:02 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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This is worse than Vietnam!
4 posted on 06/22/2010 6:11:30 AM PDT by Conservative_Rob
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I hope he gets fired because he’s Zero’s butt boy.

It must have been hard for the President to find a guy that would fight a war the way he wanted it fought.

The only way he can redeem himself is to quit go public and take down Zero.


6 posted on 06/22/2010 6:12:36 AM PDT by Recon Dad ( Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things)
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Speaking again about the intolerable Rules of Engagement from the incompetent Kenyan the White House. Ping.


7 posted on 06/22/2010 6:14:35 AM PDT by Red Steel
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the buck stops with the CIC...who has no intention of winning this war.


9 posted on 06/22/2010 6:18:02 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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Don’t ya just long for the days when a President was also a war veteran?
The ROE would be bring guns, bullets, more bullets, all your friends with guns and bullets. and kill anything that even remotely looked like the enemy.


12 posted on 06/22/2010 6:22:21 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Comrade O has to go; FIRE OBAMA NOW !!!)
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..welcome back to 1968...


13 posted on 06/22/2010 6:22:26 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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Why are we determined to make the same mistakes we made in Vietnam over and over and over and over again?


14 posted on 06/22/2010 6:25:11 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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Those who don’t know history doomed to repeat it ping....http://www.historynet.com/air-force-colonel-jacksel-jack-broughton-air-force-general-john-d-jack-lavelle-testing-the-rules-of-engagement-during-the-vietnam-war.htm


15 posted on 06/22/2010 6:27:04 AM PDT by La Lydia
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After “Lone Survivor”, I CANNOT BELIEVE we still have these INSANE rules of engagement. This needs to change immediately and if McChrystal doesn’t see that, he should go. Unfortunately, I don’t think we will see a change until O is gone in 2012. How many troops have to die unnecessarily before that?


16 posted on 06/22/2010 6:30:19 AM PDT by Pete (exponential problems require exponential solutions : 29thday.org)
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How do we know the ROE aren’t coming from OBAMA???? That would be MY guess.


29 posted on 06/22/2010 6:53:33 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion...the Human Scarifice to the god of Convenience.)
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Obama’s ROE are similar to his reported attitude about the border. EVERYTHING has a political agenda for him. If we started wining in Iraq and Afghanistan, Obama would have no reason to cut and run. That is always what he had in mind and only changed to appease for a short while.


32 posted on 06/22/2010 6:57:58 AM PDT by Jackson57
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Denial of Artillery and air strikes in support of U.S. ground troops?

A matter of SOP for our politically correct, head-in-the-sand, and a$$-in-the-wind Leaders.

34 posted on 06/22/2010 7:17:48 AM PDT by gitmogrunt
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I heard from a reliable source on the ground over there that when the reports and requests filtered up through the two, three, and four star generals, the four star boys refused to act on anything that might be a PC problem.


35 posted on 06/22/2010 7:24:05 AM PDT by Big_Harry ( Starve the Beast!)
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Rush discussing all this right now- he’s heard that

A- McChrystal wrote these ROE’s and/or
B- McChrystal hates the ROE’s and has let the Pentagon know it

Take your choice..


45 posted on 06/22/2010 9:17:41 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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Micromanagement favoring nebulous diplomacy over getting the job done and protecting our troops. Victory abandoned in favor of stalemate as the highest possible goal.

That and more is the essence of why we lost an eminently winnable war in Viet Nam.


46 posted on 06/22/2010 9:27:00 AM PDT by walford (http://natural-law-natural-religion.blogspot.com/)
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