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To: ICAB9USA

If they reverse an umpire’s call after the game, then baseball as we know it is dead.


2 posted on 06/03/2010 8:50:45 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I see where you are coming from but I can’t say that I agree.


7 posted on 06/03/2010 8:52:38 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Jeff Chandler

Baseball as we know it should be dead. Modern technology enables us to get it right. It should be used.


8 posted on 06/03/2010 8:52:56 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Jeff Chandler
If that call stands, why bother to play any games? Just flip a coin and everybody goes home.
9 posted on 06/03/2010 8:53:15 AM PDT by gundog (Outrage is anger taken by surprise. Nothing these people do surprises me anymore.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Not true at all. I believe they have done it in the past.

It should be made right. 21 perfect games among how many games played? Last out? Fire that ump, change the call, update the history books and move on.


11 posted on 06/03/2010 8:54:13 AM PDT by TJC
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To: Jeff Chandler
If they reverse an umpire’s call after the game, then baseball as we know it is dead.

Now that the camel's nose of instant replay is under the tent, it's only a matter of time before baseball is ruined.

12 posted on 06/03/2010 8:54:46 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Jeff Chandler

george brett, pine tar incident...reversed....baseball is still as we knew it....anything this blatant should be looked at....


14 posted on 06/03/2010 8:55:46 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: Jeff Chandler

Normally I might agree with you, but this is a case that justifies it. Baseball allows a check of instant replay to determine homeruns, why not in this instance as well? The next batter hit into the third out so the worst that can happen is the batter loses a hit he shouldn’t have gotten in the first place. The call was clearly wrong, the umpire agrees that it was clearly wrong, overturning it and awarding Gallaraga a complete game is only justice and not a travesty.


15 posted on 06/03/2010 8:56:12 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Jeff Chandler

Isn’t that what instant replay is for - instant feedback, quick decision?

Yeah, it might suck to lose. I’m still pissed off about that 1979 Houston-Pittsburgh blown call that cost us a Super Bowl spot. We coulda spanked the Rams that year.


27 posted on 06/03/2010 8:59:54 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Yes, Chef!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

That would be like removeing a disqualified Kenyan president after he was sworn in. Twice.

Good luck with that...


39 posted on 06/03/2010 9:03:51 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Jeff Chandler
If they reverse an umpire’s call after the game, then baseball as we know it is dead

Yes indeed, you nailed it. Baseball will go the way of Nobel awards, Pulitzer prizes, and Sammy Sousa's corked bat.

44 posted on 06/03/2010 9:05:25 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: Jeff Chandler
If they reverse an umpire’s call after the game, then baseball as we know it is dead.

That game has been dead a very long time.

This is an industry we're talking about.

45 posted on 06/03/2010 9:05:32 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
If they reverse an umpire’s call after the game, then baseball as we know it is dead.

No more so than instituting video review of homerun calls, or in hockey, the video review of goals, or the (limited by rule) video reviews in football. It's about getting it right when it matters, and keeping such reviews very selective and rare. The blown call at first base last night matters, because it is a horrible black eye for baseball if it is left to stand. I suspect that nobody in the world wants that call reversed more than the umpire who blew it.

61 posted on 06/03/2010 9:11:16 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Jeff Chandler

“If they reverse an umpire’s call after the game, then baseball as we know it is dead.”

This case is special enough that I think it is appropriate. This is why they need limited use of instant replay.


83 posted on 06/03/2010 9:23:40 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Barry Bonds is in the record books, and without an asterisk. “Purity of the game” is already gone.


107 posted on 06/03/2010 9:49:50 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Jeff Chandler

>>>If they reverse an umpire’s call after the game, then baseball as we know it is dead.<<<

I think that is extreme hyperbole, but I do agree that normally an umpire’s call should not be reversed after a game. However, given that there were 2 outs in the 9th inning when this happened, and the outcome of the game would not be affected, I believe it might make sense to reverse the call, in this particular case.

It wouldn’t be the first time. Back in 1983, the umpire’s call, ruling George Brett’s homerun an out, due to excessive pine tar, was reversed and the game was later resumed, after counting the homerun. Of course, that was a rules interpretation, as opposed to a safe-out, fair-foul, ball-strike call, but there is at least some precedent.


110 posted on 06/03/2010 9:55:06 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Jeff Chandler; ICAB9USA; Sean Hannity; ml/nj; All
If they reverse an umpire's call after the game, then baseball as we know it is dead.

Exactly. Selig is a big-time leftist schmuck, and he's just likely to do it, because like all leftists, he has no respect for law or precedent, he merely wants to arrive at a feel-good outcome. And just like other leftists, he loves governing from the top down.

First, there is absolutely no precedent for reversing an umpire or umpiring crew's pure judgment call; the only calls that are possibly subject to reversal after the game is completed involve misapplications of the rules, and then only when the aggrieved team announces it is playing the game under protest at the point in the game when the controversy occurs.

Most importantly, the fact is that the outcome of the game was not affected at all by the bad call, unlike many other bad umpiring calls in the past. The score, as the game played out, was still 3-0 Detroit regardless of the call.

And if Selig reverses the play on the field, what else will this lead to? (What a hypocrite: he never did reverse any of Barry Bonds' steroid-aided home runs, nor any Giants' wins obtained as a result of them, did he?)

With all the bad officiating decisions that have take place in all competitive team sports over the years, this one ranks near the bottom of the list in terms of the consequences, because the the team that deserved to win did. There are always some lousy calls, because officials are human. This one is minuscule in importance because unlike many others I could name, it had absolutely no effect on which team won and which team lost, which should be the bottom line.

By overblowing this issue, the sports MSM, which is just as dumb and just as far left as the rest of the media, is demonstrating that it has little concept of what the ethic of competitive team sports should be about. They seem more concerned about making individual participants look good or bad than who won and who lost.

167 posted on 06/03/2010 1:35:59 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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