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Natalee Holloway Extended Discussion Thread #21
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Posted on 06/02/2010 1:42:42 PM PDT by RGVTx

This is a consolidation of the current threads on FR. It is intended to make discussion and updates easier.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526123/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2526200/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526225/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526245/posts


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To: amom; hennie pennie

I guess we can add Peruvians do not like guys who have gotten away with it before...how many times before is the question.

Those Kalpoes...they knew all about it. What are they up to these days?


781 posted on 06/07/2010 5:55:21 PM PDT by eleni121 (For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
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To: hennie pennie

Aruba has started searching for Natalee again.


782 posted on 06/07/2010 5:55:49 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: hennie pennie; All
In case anyone missed it, the murder weapon has been identified as a Tennis Racquet (sic?). (Seems the word "bat" is another name for a Tennis Racquet.)

And he had bloody clothes in his possession.

Joran is going down...

783 posted on 06/07/2010 5:59:08 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife )(Save the Brown Pelican)
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To: All
Jean Cesarez says that Stephany was beaten with a shoe:

"what do we know about weapon, it was a tennis racket along with tennis shoes, per Jean"

SHOES???

Maybe the reason one of his tennies was missing after the disappearance of NH was that it was all bloody from beating her up????

Anybody happen to know HOW Joran beat his pet dog to death, did he use his bare hands, or did he use a SHOE???

Thanks.

784 posted on 06/07/2010 6:01:04 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: eleni121
When Jossy Mansur was interviewed about the new searches for the remains of Natalee Holloway, he mentioned that everybody thinks that the Kalpoe brothers are still on Aruba, but they are keeping a very low profile, so noone seems to know precisely where they are.

I thought that was odd, as I'd have presumed that both Satish and Deepak would be holding down jobs at this point ---- HOW could they possibly have funds to stay on Aruba and yet not ever be seen????

Very odd.

785 posted on 06/07/2010 6:03:35 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie
Anybody happen to know HOW Joran beat his pet dog to death, did he use his bare hands, or did he use a SHOE???

OMG...

786 posted on 06/07/2010 6:04:03 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
“Van der sloot is entering the gates of hell.”

If he goes to Loreigauncho then at the very BEST it'll be hell.

787 posted on 06/07/2010 6:05:06 PM PDT by amom (Proud Blue Star Mom of a US Army tanker)
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To: spectre
On WS I read that if one translates "baseball bat" into Spanish, one ends up with 'raquette.'

However, what the Spanish press meant all along was NOT "bat" but tennis racket -- Joran & his dad played LOTS of tennis, Joran took lessons for years.

788 posted on 06/07/2010 6:06:20 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
You didn't know that?

Yep, that's why his family & school called in a child psychologist -- he beat his dog to death.

But I never heard any precise details about the incident.

789 posted on 06/07/2010 6:07:51 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: amom

Good


790 posted on 06/07/2010 6:08:08 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: hennie pennie

How old was he when he killed the dog?


791 posted on 06/07/2010 6:09:08 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: hennie pennie
The brothers lived with their Mother. So she probably provides for them.
792 posted on 06/07/2010 6:10:43 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife )(Save the Brown Pelican)
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To: hennie pennie

I’ve only seen that he killed his own dog and tried to lay the blame on a schoolmate...got called on it by the kids mother and then confessed to having killed the dog himself. No mention of beating that I am aware of...but I wouldn’t be surprised if he did.


793 posted on 06/07/2010 6:11:43 PM PDT by amom (Proud Blue Star Mom of a US Army tanker)
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To: hennie pennie

Apparently these scumballs are trying hard to NOT to come to the US.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/01/31/natalee-holloway-deepak-satish-kalpoe-mislead-the-court-continue-with-visa-excuses-to-dodge-depositions-in-la-county-ca-dr-phil-defamation-case/


794 posted on 06/07/2010 6:28:37 PM PDT by eleni121 (For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
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To: hennie pennie

I just remembered...go to google and enter
“peru el comercio”

click on “Translate This Page”


795 posted on 06/07/2010 6:42:20 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: amom

A few items mentioned on Nancy Grace tonight that should be on camera.

JVDS left the room between 5:33 and returned to the room before 8:56 with TWO cups of coffee and some bread.

The investigators found a woman’s purse in the room and the white shirt he was wearing when he entered at 5:33. Stephany was not carrying a purse at 5:33 - so perhaps JVDS went to her truck and got it.

They also found one empty coffee cup - two pepsi bottles and 5 cigarette butts in an ashtray by the bed. Also a tennis shoe.

It would be helpful to see what JVDS was wearing on his shopping trip and what he was carrying when he returned to the room before leaving at 8;56.

good night;)


796 posted on 06/07/2010 7:11:02 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: amom; Dr. Scarpetta
Interesting, I thought I'd read several times that he beat it to death, but here is a discussion where it is mentioned that Joran killed his dog with a paintball gun.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/07/25/man-drowns-in-aruba-and-washes-ashore-why-didnt-natalee-holloway-if-she-drown/

It's a scary discussion -- I'd never heard that Dave Holloway once received a tape allegedly containing a voice sounding like Anita stating that NH was buried with a family member. They are wondering if the family member was the dog that Joran killed.

797 posted on 06/07/2010 7:14:05 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: sodpoodle
Stephany was not carrying a purse at 5:33 - so perhaps JVDS went to her truck and got it.

SP, when you get the time REVIEW the video of them walking AWAY from the front desk. It's hardly noticeable, but she is holding what appears to be a "clutch purse" in her right hand. It's vague, but she IS holding something small.

sw

798 posted on 06/07/2010 7:18:47 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife )(Save the Brown Pelican)
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To: hennie pennie

http://peru21.pe/noticia/490971/ricardo-flores-mi-hija-no-tuvo-sexo-ni-fue-violada

According to this article (and babelfish and my understanding)
the father said,

Daughter did not have relations nor was sexually assaulted,

The attack was brutal

Her arm was outstretched as if to fend off an attacker,

Don’t know if drugged, tests not in,

I believe the article implies that if robbery involved, a life sentence could be in play.


799 posted on 06/07/2010 7:21:04 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: hennie pennie; spectre

June 7, 2010 6:15 p.m. EDT

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/07/peru.murder.case/index.html?eref=ib_topstories

(CNN) — A Peruvian police report leaked Monday says the alleged victim of Joran van der Sloot was found in his hotel room on the floor, half-dressed. The report provides new details about the hours before Stephany Flores’ body was found.

Van der Sloot, who was twice arrested in connection with the disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway in Aruba in 2005, is in Peruvian custody as a suspect in the killing of Flores, 21.

According to the document, the Hotel Tac, where van der Sloot was staying, received a call from someone looking for him about 11 p.m. June 1. The receptionist forwarded the call, but no one answered. The hotel worker assumed that van der Sloot was asleep because the room key was with him and not the front desk.

About an hour later, according to the police report, the receptionist noticed that van der Sloot owed money for two nights and went up to his room, where her knocks went unanswered. The television was blaring, so the hotel employee figured he was resting, the report says.

Afterward, the hotel supervisor told the employee to go back to van der Sloot’s room and enter using a spare key. When the employee went in, she found Flores’ body on the floor, dressed in a black T-shirt and red panties, half-covered with a piece of white clothing, the police report said.

Flores was bleeding from her nose, the report said.

The hotel employee became frightened at the sight and went to alert her supervisor and the police, turning off the television and lights on her way out of the room, the report said.


800 posted on 06/07/2010 7:30:17 PM PDT by Shermy
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