Natalee Holloway Extended Discussion Thread #21

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[RGVTx]

This is a consolidation of the current threads on FR. It is intended to make discussion and updates easier.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526123/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2526200/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526225/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526245/posts

[LucyT]

"...murder weapon found - is a baseball bat. Brutal slaying - can hardly be construed as *self-defense*."

"Strange that no-one heard the beating or screams - she must have been unconscious/drugged (?) before he began beating her."

[sodpoodle]

CNNHL Natalie’s aunt reporting that the Beth & the Holloways have made their email and phone numbers available to the Flores’ family in order to offer support and help.

[caww]

Is this guy graping his “frontage?”....what a perverted sack of ...well...stuff.

[caww]

gee...that’s one big guy..he towers over everyone else!

[hennie pennie]

No, like most prisoners, he’s had his belt removed; he’s holding onto the front of his trousers, trying to keep them from falling off.

[LucyT]

[eleni121]

VDS is a sociopath and gambling addict.

[hennie pennie]

I’m surprised that YOU didn’t find this photograph, first, LOLOL — look at what LucyT just posted, you’ll roflolololol!!!

[girlscout]

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[hennie pennie]

I’m noticing tonight at WS that many posters are surprised that the AP reported that there was a tennis racket in Joran’s room, but there is NO reason to be surprised -— Joran belonged to the tennis club in Aruba, had taken tennis lessons for years and was said to excel at the sport in 2005.

[hennie pennie]

Have you seen this stunning picture of Stephany?

Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez ---- http://refugeesunleashed.net/about23115.html

I am referring to THE SECOND PHOTO posted by resigned, half way down the thread, posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:43 pm

[LucyT]

[Dr. Scarpetta]

Mark Furhman on Greta now...

[Dr. Scarpetta]

I just checked Nancy Grace’s Facebook page again, and there are thousands of comments about this story. I reported a guy from Aruba who kept repeatedly cursing Nancy with the F word. I hope he gets banned.

[Shermy]

Here is video at “Arequipa”, a city on the way to Lima

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/489877/joran-van-der-sloot-llego-custodiado-cuatro-patrulleros-arequipa

[fatnotlazy]

Just wanted you to know...Greta is having a special on Fox News Saturday at 8:00 pm eastern on this matter.

[ican'tbelieveit]

Looks like he peed his pants.

[RGVTx]

http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_15232931?nclick_check=1

Dutch murder suspect back in Peru to face charges

By FRANK BAJAK and FRANKLIN BRICENO Associated Press Writers
Posted: 06/04/2010 11:29:42 PM PDT
Updated: 06/04/2010 11:37:46 PM PDT

LIMA, Peru—

*excerpt*

Van der Sloot told police in Chile that he did not kill Stephany Flores, who was found dead in his hotel room with her neck broken earlier this week. Chilean police spokesman Ricardo Flores said van der Sloot acknowledged, however, that “he met her and at some point they went to a casino.”

The girl’s father, Ricardo Flores, told The Associated Press that video cameras tracked the couple as they walked before dawn Sunday to van der Sloot’s hotel from the casino in Lima’s upscale Miraflores district where they met playing poker.

Flores said he doesn’t want the death penalty for van der Sloot, only justice. In Peru, murder carries a prison sentence of up to 35 years.

“I haven’t slept since Monday,” Flores, his eyelids heavy and speech slurred, said in an interview at his Lima home. “I’m waiting for him to step foot on Peruvian
soil.” Then, he said, he’d take a sleeping pill or simply collapse from exhaustion.

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The longtime fixture of TV true-crime shows also now faces criminal charges in the United States of trying to extort $250,000 from Holloway’s family in exchange for disclosing the location of Holloway’s body and describing how she died. U.S. prosecutors charged van der Sloot with the crime on Thursday, saying $15,000 had been transferred to a Dutch bank account in his name. In the Netherlands on Friday, prosecutors acting on a U.S. request raided two homes seeking evidence in the case, seizing computers, cell phones and data-storage devices.

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She was fully clothed, with multiple bruises and scratches on her body but no signs she had been sexually assaulted, the chief of Peru’s criminal police, Gen. Cesar Guardia, told the AP.

A tennis racket was found in the room “that could have been the murder weapon but that’s so far not been proven,” said Dr. Cesar Tejada, deputy Lima medical examiner.
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Flores said he hopes his daughter’s death will help investigators solve not just the Holloway case but others of missing girls in which van der Sloot might be responsible.

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A New York lawyer for van der Sloot, Joseph Tacopina, had no immediate comment on his client’s predicament. He said he was not yet able to say whether a Peruvian lawyer had been obtained for the young man.

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[sodpoodle]

CNN’s Jean Cesaris(sp) was pounding on the *baseball bat* as being the murder weapon.

Greta had Mark Fuhrman reporting that she was slammed into part of the *bed frame*.

Now there is the *tennis racquet* report.

Hard to keep up with all the rumors.

One note: JVDS was not extradited from Chile - he was *expelled* for entering the country illegally. Good move by Chile & Peru. Extradition would have taken months.

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

The Holloway case has followed many twists and turns. Two years ago, a Dutch television crime reporter captured hidden-camera footage of van der Sloot saying he was with Holloway when she collapsed on a beach from being drunk. He said he believed she was dead and asked a friend to dump her body in the sea. Judges subsequently refused to arrest van der Sloot on the basis of the tape.

The journalist, Peter de Vries, reported later in 2008 that he had documented van der Sloot recruiting Thai women in Bangkok for sex work in the Netherlands.

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I don’t believe this POS’s original story -—

if you are on the beach with a girl and she suddenly goes unconscious, you don’t say Oh shit let’s find a place to bury the body;

you call an ambulance or call the cops.

I think he beat the first one to death on the beach, just like the second, and so had to hide the body cuz there was no way to explain away the injuries ...

I read he beat the second one so badly she was unrecognizable with one eye out ...

Sorry everyone.

I think he, and his father, cruise casinos for young girls and then -— did you read? -— when things go wrong the judge father advises punky boy “If there is no body there is no case”. I also read that the father helped dispose of the first body.

Everyone for years kept saying Oh Natalie must have passed out, taken drugs, drunk too much ........

Or did she just say something to this frowning low brow creep that set him off? Just as, it seems, did the girl from the casino ... at 5 AM ... in Peru.

Girls:

Don’t go back to hotels rooms with really ugly scowling b*stards at 5 AM ——— go home instead !!!