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One false move in Europe could set off global chain reaction
Washington Post ^ | Monday, May 24, 2010 | By Howard Schneider and Neil Irwin Washington Post Staff Writer

Posted on 05/23/2010 10:07:26 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Myrddin

Read this good analysis of socialism that was just posted on the Free Republic:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2519797/posts

It is interesting that someone wrote this piece which describes exactly what I believe.


41 posted on 05/23/2010 11:34:29 PM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Alot of China’s GDP is based on their contruction projects, including their hyper-inflated housing and condo markets.

Your now starting to see entire blocks and suburbs of Chinese cities resembling “Potemkin villages” where you have buildings, skyscrapers, and entire shopping malls constructed, but nobody is living in them or shopping there.

When pop goes the bubble, which I’m predicting within 2 years, its going to be nasty, but the Chinese government will do everything it can to block the story of the financial damage from the outside world so its going to be difficult to guage what’s really going on there.

There will also be some big time benefits to China finally slowing down. Natural resource prices, especially oil, has been soaring high due to all the Chinese demand. Steel, Iron ore, copper, etc... Will all become more affordable.


42 posted on 05/24/2010 12:31:50 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ping


43 posted on 05/24/2010 1:16:17 AM PDT by onona (dbada)
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To: Plutarch

That excuse won’t save him from being a one-term wonder and kicked out in 2012. People vote their pocketbook. They don’t listen to excuses. If unemployment is still this high, and th economy is still this weak in 2012, and I predict they will be, Obama is an O-goner.


44 posted on 05/24/2010 1:28:13 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Liberal are like termites eating away our cultural foundations.)
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To: Myrddin

That sounds about right. Wales is practically another department of Government.

And Scotland is a crushing welfare millstone - AND the Scots get twice as many MPs (members of parliament) per capita.

England does all the work and pays all the bills.


45 posted on 05/24/2010 1:29:07 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: unkus

The fuse is lit...It’s going to go boom...

Instead of trying to stop it, the leadership around the world keeps heaping more explosives on the pile...


46 posted on 05/24/2010 2:31:23 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: Plutarch
those dang Europeans ruined things.

I think the official blame will go on speculators. Those damn speculators brought down the Euro.

47 posted on 05/24/2010 2:36:54 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: garyhope
It all starts with socialism when we ran out of “other people’s money”.

It didn't help that Japan overinflated in the 80's. The other way to lose a lot of OPM is to dilute capital with excessive credit. Japan tried it and failed, so we will try it again. That virtual OPM then migrates to dumps like Greece for the larger "guaranteed" returns. Then the carry trade unwinds and tanks Europe (in the current case). Eventually a small business or other long term investor here finds out his money isn't worth as much because Japan, US Fed and now the ECB have inflated all the currencies.

48 posted on 05/24/2010 2:43:58 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I find it interesting that very very who speak or write about the impending (sure to come) financial meltdown of Europe, China, and the US accurately addresses the cause(s) of the peril we all now face.

Basically, governments are just too big now. They have been grown using 'good times' revenue scenarios to project future income coupled with paper growth of fictitious wealth from the global derivatives Ponzi Scheme.

With so much global manufacturing having shifted to Asia / India, just how the F did the US and European politicians think money that once stayed within their borders from domestic industry was to remain in the country, not to mention how they were to long term finance goobetrmint and private pensions??

49 posted on 05/24/2010 4:09:53 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: palmer

Excellent post!! You nailed it on the head! It’s about how goobermints feed themselves so they can grow their goobermint!


50 posted on 05/24/2010 4:15:14 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: blam

Interesting the goobermint smucks are now revising the US GDP upwards as the US continues to lose jobs every month. Most sheeple forget the GDP reported by the goobermint includes goobermint spending. With Congress and Zeewoe spending like a bunch of drunken sailors, geeesssh, the GDP is great, ain’t it!!


51 posted on 05/24/2010 4:18:19 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
But hey, what, us worry? Greece is, like, the Democrats'/liberals' political wet-dream - everyone on the take from the government, and everyone unionized.

Who is this clown kidding, anyways? The basic descriptive facts - i.e., the dominoes all lined up - may be correct, but the cause is not ascertained, or ascertained correctly. But for our idiotic, fascist liberal rulers, we'd not be just another one of the dominoes lined up to fall for the Greece effect. Stupid effing liberal.


52 posted on 05/24/2010 4:22:12 AM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

They are safe because they are backed up by law or something like that...basically the gov cannot back out of them like.


53 posted on 05/24/2010 5:29:44 AM PDT by fire4effect
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To: palmer

The Euro was $1.23 this AM, it was $1.51 in January, an enormous drop in 5 months, the British pound $1.4355, the Dollar/Swissy up to $1.16.

Money to be made shorting the Euro and Pound.


54 posted on 05/24/2010 8:39:53 AM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: palmer

G. Gordon Liddy pushes Rosalind Capital, whereas Mark Levin pushes Goldline.
I trust them both and can’t make up my mind.


55 posted on 05/24/2010 8:43:50 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

56 posted on 05/24/2010 10:19:12 AM PDT by Liz (If teens can procreate in a Volkswagen, why does a spotted owl need 2000 acres? JD Hayworth)
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To: Liz; blam; SierraWasp

That’s scary.


57 posted on 05/24/2010 11:58:00 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Liz
I happened to see Peter Schiff and a clown economist from the IMF going at it on CNBC briefly,...Peter could have done real damage with this chart....verbally describing this does come across as well...

IMF guy says the US isn't even close to being like Greece....Peter says it is....

58 posted on 05/24/2010 12:00:43 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The Greek tragedy is eerily similar to the Ohaha Modus Operandi.

ITEM Non-stop socialism

ITEM Nationalized healthcare that broke the bank

ITEM The corrosive political power of dominant public sector unions....rioting in the streets, bringing the gov't down.

ITEM Ohaha reflexively bails out anything that has a union.

ITEM Greece paid Goldman Sachs $300 million in fees for arranging the toxic 2001 transactions, according to several bankers.

ITEM "Professor Ohaha" knows nothing about int'l finance. But Wall Street Rahm Emanuel sits in OUR WH.....AND Rahm is a G/S toadie.

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Goldman Sachs Will Be Sitting Pretty With Emanuel in the Obama White House
Timothy P. Carney, Examiner Columnist, November 21, 2008

EXCERPT Goldman Sachs always has clout in Washington, as evidenced by the firm’s alumni serving as Treasury secretaries under both Presidents Bush and Clinton. Today, in these tumultuous times of bailouts and meltdowns when the investment banking leviathan needs Washington more than ever before, Goldman can leverage its most valuable asset yet—incoming White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel. Traditionally a Democratic booster, and one of Barack Obama’s top sources of funds in this past election, Goldman has always had some particularly strong allies within government.

Emanuel is one such ally.

An interesting early chapter in the Goldman-Rahm Emanuel relationship occured during Bill Clinton’s 1992 presidential campaign. Clinton hired Emanuel as his chief fundraiser. At the same time, however, Emanuel was on the payroll of Goldman Sachs, at $3,000 per month to “introduce us to people,” in the words of one Goldman partner at the time.

In his four terms in Congress, Emanuel raised $74,750 from Goldman, making the firm his number four source of funds.

How has Emanuel helped Goldman? The most obvious answer, as mentioned in this column two weeks ago, is in Emanuel’s lead role in shepherding the “$700 billion” bailout—first proposed by former a Goldman CEO, Bush Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson—through the skeptical House.

In the Clinton days, Goldman benefited from NAFTA and the bailout of the Mexican currency, with Emanuel pushing NAFTA through Congress, and Rubin hammering out the peso bailout.

Did Goldman improperly funnel money to the Clinton campaign by subsidizing Emanuel’s salary in 1992? Did Goldman’s help to Clinton spur the Democratic president to push NAFTA and the Mexican bailout? The answers to these questions are opaque, and with Emanuel burrowed deep within the Obama White House, the continued relationship between Goldman Sachs and Obama’s right hand man won’t be easy to follow.

CLUES Watch which regulations of Wall Street Obama fights for. Watch where the bailout money goes.

SOURCE http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/TimothyCarney/

59 posted on 05/24/2010 12:05:42 PM PDT by Liz (If teens can procreate in a Volkswagen, why does a spotted owl need 2000 acres? JD Hayworth)
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To: Liz; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SierraWasp
The chart is a quite outdated and the numbers for "developed" economies, and U.S. in particular, are actually much worse:

Selected countries, in January 2010 data compiled from Forbes and Bloomberg and EC:
Debtor Nations


60 posted on 05/25/2010 12:59:31 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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