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A Nation of Profilers
Townhall.com ^ | May 13, 2010 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 05/13/2010 5:10:25 AM PDT by Kaslin

Profiling is considered among the worst of American sins.

Not long ago, Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates was arrested by the Cambridge, Mass., police for trying to enter his own locked home after misplacing his key. Almost immediately, President Obama rushed to condemn what he thought was racial profiling. The police were acting "stupidly," Obama concluded. He added: "There's a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately."

Here is where the argument about an individual and the group turns nasty: Is using statistics on collective behavior a reasonable tool of law enforcement to anticipate the greater likelihood of a crime, or is it gratuitously stereotyping the innocent? Or sometimes both, depending on how it's done?

Take the Arizona anti-illegal-immigration law. It gives police the right to ask for identification papers if they have reasonable cause to suspect that those questioned on a separate matter may be in the country illegally. In heated reaction to this new state law, we now hear everything from calls for a boycott of Arizona to allegations of Gestapo-like tactics.

But is Arizona doing anything that much different from what most Americans do all the time -- namely, using all sorts of generalized criteria to make what they think are play-by-the-odds judgments that may or may not be proven wrong by exceptions? The president himself did just that when he said his own grandmother sometimes acted as a "typical white person." And he once stereotyped rural Pennsylvania voters as xenophobes clinging to their guns and religion.

More than 60 percent of voters nationwide either support the Arizona law or find it still too lax, according to polls. They apparently believe that a police officer can, in fact, make reasonable requests for identification. For example, if a trooper near the border pulls over a car for a missing tail light, finds that there are younger Hispanic males in the car and that none can understand English, can he then conjecture that there is a greater likelihood some might be Mexican nationals? The trooper, after all, is working within a landscape in which one in 10 Arizonans is an illegal alien from Latin America, and the state shares a 300-mile-long border with nearby Mexico.

Otherwise, would it be presently OK for the border patrol to try to detain suspicious Hispanic males for possible immigration violations at or near the border, but not OK for police to ask for ID from the same person should he make it a few miles past the border?

Or imagine the reaction if nearly a million mostly poor, white French-Canadians were trying to cross into Vermont and New York from Canada each year. If those states felt such an influx were both contrary to federal statutes and a burden on their social service industries, could police rightly ask for ID from any French-speaking white males pulled over for traffic infractions -- or do so only at or near the northern border? Would these French-speaking suspects likelier be illegal aliens than, say, Hispanic, English-speaking American citizens of Albany or Burlington?

On a recent international flight, I noticed the cabin crew was far more attentive to a group of Arabic-speaking, Middle Eastern males than it was to a group of Chinese nationals. Had the attendants collated the number of terrorist incidents since 9/11, concluded that the vast majority of them were attempted by Middle Eastern males, and so tried to give more attention to politely watching one group than another? And should they have, given that the vast majority of Middle Eastern males reject terrorism?

When Justice Sonia Sotomayor was nominated to the Supreme Court, the media unabashedly wrote that President Obama was focusing on naming the court's first Hispanic justice. Sotomayor herself had often used the term "wise Latina" to suggest that her gender and ethnic profile in some cases made her a better judge than stereotypical white males.

When we weigh racial and gender stereotypes for what we deem are noble purposes, we call it "diversity," but when considering criteria other than one's individuality for matters of public safety, it devolves into "profiling"?

So what are we to make of the Arizona law?

First, rightly or wrongly, most Americans have long accepted some forms of both private and government profiling that draws on greater statistical likelihood. Second, should Arizona police start gratuitously pulling over U.S. citizens statewide and questioning them without cause, the law should -- and will -- be overturned. Third, far more illegal aliens will be detained than before the law was passed.

And fourth, the third likelihood accounts for much of the angry reaction to the Arizona law.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; vdh; victordavishanson

1 posted on 05/13/2010 5:10:25 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
"There's a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately."

There is also a long history of them being convicted for crimes they did commit and going to jail for it.

2 posted on 05/13/2010 5:12:31 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: Kaslin

I am a profiler.


3 posted on 05/13/2010 5:12:56 AM PDT by IncPen (HEY GORE -- GIVE BACK THE OSCAR! - GIVE BACK THE NOBEL! ANSWER THE HOAX!)
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To: Kaslin

Proud of my son....He just did a research paper/speech in his 9th grade class on profiling and he was for it. Hard to find supporting sources though, and he needed about a dozen or so........


4 posted on 05/13/2010 5:25:27 AM PDT by BallparkBoys (My daughter can throw better than Obama)
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To: BallparkBoys

You should be proud. However it would be interesting to know his teacher graded him, was the teacher fair or did the teacher let it be known, that he/she is for amnesty?


5 posted on 05/13/2010 5:35:30 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: BallparkBoys

Profiling is, and always will be, part of a successful survival strategy...for individuals and nations.


6 posted on 05/13/2010 5:41:04 AM PDT by dogcaller
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To: Kaslin
Sotomayor herself had often used the term "wise Latina"

Sexist racist pig.

7 posted on 05/13/2010 5:54:38 AM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: Kaslin
The odd thing is that the more the democrats (Liberals, communists, morons, etc the terms are interchangeable) scream against profiling, the more I do it.

I tried very hard for most of life to not be racist. Now I find I have no choice. Since society at large will not restrain or reform the bad elements I have to assume that people similar to those who are known to be bad are also bad. Until of course they individually prove otherwise.

Very similar to affirmative action. The first thought upon seeing a non-asian minority in any "educated" position is that they are an affirmative action case. Until they prove that they honestly earned that position.

If the democrats (etc) had just let society advance as it was progressing, we'd not have near the racial problems we have today

8 posted on 05/13/2010 6:11:50 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Kaslin
When we weigh racial and gender stereotypes for what we deem are noble purposes, we call it "diversity," but when considering criteria other than one's individuality for matters of public safety, it devolves into "profiling"?

That's the money quote.

9 posted on 05/13/2010 7:14:02 AM PDT by knittnmom ("...only dead fish 'go with the flow'". - Sarah Palin 7/09)
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To: Kaslin

Its a private classical school and a parochial school that fosters critical thinking and logic.....He got a 95....but he put a contraction in the paper and since thats not formal language, he was knocked down to an 85. So, pretty good....


10 posted on 05/13/2010 9:21:49 AM PDT by BallparkBoys (My daughter can throw better than Obama)
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To: Kaslin
When we weigh racial and gender stereotypes for what we deem are noble purposes, we call it "diversity," but when considering criteria other than one's individuality for matters of public safety, it devolves into "profiling"

Brilliant!

11 posted on 05/13/2010 9:39:11 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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Ping!


12 posted on 05/13/2010 12:14:28 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Illegal is a Crime, it is not a Race ~)
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To: thethirddegree

The human race profiles -

human experience indicates that that category of thing/person/animal is dangerous, avoid it, be cautious.

It’s a God given survival trait.


13 posted on 05/13/2010 12:15:50 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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