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Kagan Says free speech is all about the Govt's motive, Backs Limits on Speech That Can ‘Harm’
CNS News ^ | 5/12/10 | Matt Cover

Posted on 05/12/2010 6:59:24 AM PDT by reaganrevolutionin2010

Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan said the high court should be focused on ferreting out improper governmental motives when deciding First Amendment cases, arguing that the government’s reasons for restricting free speech were what mattered most and not necessarily the effect of those restrictions on speech.

Kagan, the solicitor general of the United States under President Obama, expressed that idea in her 1996 article in the University of Chicago Law Review entitled, “Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine.”

In her article, Kagan said that examination of the motives of government is the proper approach for the Supreme Court when looking at whether a law violates the First Amendment. While not denying that other concerns, such as the impact of a law, can be taken into account, Kagan argued that governmental motive is “the most important” factor.

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1 posted on 05/12/2010 6:59:24 AM PDT by reaganrevolutionin2010
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From David Horowitz's
FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org

PROFILE: ELENA KAGAN

As an undergraduate at Princeton, Kagan wrote a senior thesis titled

"To the Final Conflict: Socialism in New York City, 1900-1933."

In the "Acknowledgments" section of her work, she specifically thanked her brother Marc, “whose involvement in radical causes led me to explore the history of American radicalism in the hope of clarifying my own political ideas.” In the body of the thesis, Kagan wrote:

"In our own times, a coherent socialist movement is nowhere to be found in the United States. Americans are more likely to speak of a golden past than of a golden future, of capitalism’s glories than of socialism’s greatness. Conformity overrides dissent; the desire to conserve has overwhelmed the urge to alter. Such a state of affairs cries out for explanation. Why, in a society by no means perfect, has a radical party never attained the status of a major political force? Why, in particular, did the socialist movement never become an alternative to the nation’s established parties?...

"Through its own internal feuding, then, the SP [Socialist Party] exhausted itself forever and further reduced labor radicalism in New York to the position of marginality and insignificance from which it has never recovered. The story is a sad but also a chastening one for those who, more than half a century after socialism’s decline, still wish to change America. Radicals have often succumbed to the devastating bane of sectarianism; it is easier, after all, to fight one’s fellows than it is to battle an entrenched and powerful foe. Yet if the history of Local New York shows anything, it is that American radicals cannot afford to become their own worst enemies. In unity lies their only hope."

Lots more on Kagan here:
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2398


2 posted on 05/12/2010 7:00:16 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010; sheik yerbouty; 70th Division; nutmeg; MamaDearest; seekthetruth; ...

Sounds like she is an admirer of Joseph Goebbels.


3 posted on 05/12/2010 7:02:55 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

Gee, and who would decide what or which speech is ‘harmful’? Would it be, uh, er, um, Kagan?


4 posted on 05/12/2010 7:02:58 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: ETL

enough said...Thanks for your time, bye bye!


5 posted on 05/12/2010 7:04:07 AM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010
I would argue that motive is not terribly relevant when a tyrant tramples your God-given rights. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press" seems pretty clear. Last time I checked, "no law" meant no law, and that is an interpretation that the Supreme Court should defend since the socialists and collectivists in our Congress and our White House oppose that fundamental right.
6 posted on 05/12/2010 7:04:55 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

As we’ve discussed, there were Jewish Nazis. Some were Admirals, Generals and highly decorated.

This swinehund would fit right in.


7 posted on 05/12/2010 7:06:26 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I suffer from B.S. - Barack Syndrome!)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

Does this include her own speech? Her speech harms everyone’s first amendment rights so we should take her speech away.

Rights are not subjective. They either are or aren’t. She has no right to strip us of ours.


8 posted on 05/12/2010 7:07:19 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010
governmental motive is “the most important” factor

It's the same old story for liberals - the end justifies the means.

What you want to have happen is more important than what actually happens? How is that consistent with the rule of law and how can someone who believes this be elevated to a lifetime position on the highest court in the land?

9 posted on 05/12/2010 7:07:28 AM PDT by trad_anglican
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To: Let's Roll

Remember the Citizens United case??

The President can ban books, films, downloads and anything else basically if she had her way.


10 posted on 05/12/2010 7:08:07 AM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

When the president lies, is that speech that can harm?


11 posted on 05/12/2010 7:10:15 AM PDT by Need4Truth (the just shall live by faith.)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

Socialists think that governments have rights that override human rights.

Capitalists think that governments exist to responsibly protect human rights.


12 posted on 05/12/2010 7:10:24 AM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years.)
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To: Let's Roll
Gee, and who would decide what or which speech is ‘harmful’? Would it be, uh, er, um, Kagan?

Round up the Weather Undergound and send them to prison for treason as they should have been convicted 35 year ago.

13 posted on 05/12/2010 7:11:39 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The hysteria of Matthewsism and Andersonism has led to a Tea Party Scare that is unAmerican.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Sounds like every one that the Marxist in chief has appointed so far.

AR Senator Blanche Lincoln is proudly running an ad crowing about her YES vote on Obamanationcare. AR like the rest of the US OPPOSED this crap. We might be waving bye, bye to yet another Dem.


14 posted on 05/12/2010 7:16:49 AM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

Her principle goal in no holocaust


15 posted on 05/12/2010 7:16:53 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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To: ETL
"...American radicals cannot afford to become their own worst enemies. In unity lies their only hope."

This b!tch is trouble.

16 posted on 05/12/2010 7:28:35 AM PDT by ScottinVA (RIP to the country I love...)
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To: a fool in paradise; Need4Truth

Round up the democrat Senators who out and out LIED *to* our troops, and *about* them.


17 posted on 05/12/2010 7:48:52 AM PDT by reaganrevolutionin2010
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010

The New York Times served as an enemy propagandist by spinning that the abuse at Abu Ghraib was a Bush policy, that these convicts would not have been prosecuted if not for the media running the photos, and that the abuses at Abu Ghraib under US control were equal to the horrors committed there by Saddam Hussein. This is what the Arab Street took away from the event based on US press hysteria.

It lengthed the war by several years and emboldened the terrorists by justifying why they “hate” us.


18 posted on 05/12/2010 7:51:31 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The hysteria of Matthewsism and Andersonism has led to a Tea Party Scare that is unAmerican.)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


19 posted on 05/12/2010 8:05:15 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: reaganrevolutionin2010
Backs Limits on Speech That Can ‘Harm’

So, she stands against the lies about the Tea Party being racist and hateful? < /sarc >

20 posted on 05/12/2010 8:06:36 AM PDT by JimRed (To water the Tree of Liberty is to excise a cancer before it kills us. TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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