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Palin angers faithful with choice in California race
AFP ^ | May 7, 2010 | Staff

Posted on 05/08/2010 9:56:08 AM PDT by FTJM

Sarah Palin has angered fans by endorsing former Hewlett Packard chief Carly Fiorina instead of a more conservative challenger in her bid to become the Republican candidate aiming to unseat California Senator Barbara Boxer.

Palin, a darling of the right-wing, announced on her Facebook page on Thursday that she was backing Fiorina as she attempts to win the Republican ticket for the election in California later this year.

The 2008 Republican vice-presidential candidate said she was supporting Fiorina as a "Commonsense Conservative" on the basis of her "fiscal conservatism rooted in real life experience."

"We can trust Carly to do the right thing for America?s economy and to make the principled decisions she has throughout her professional career," Palin wrote in her endorsement.

However Palin's support has enraged supporters of California Assemblyman Chuck DeVore, who view Fiorina as a RINO -- Republican In Name Only -- an epithet used by right-wingers to disparage pro-business candidates who do not always embrace socially conservative stances.

"Sorry, governor Palin, but Chuck DeVore is California's only conservative candidate for senator," one poster wrote.

"I'm very disappointed in you, Sarah. You should know better!!," another posted added.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: ca2010; carly; carlyfiorina; chuckdevore; devore; fiorina; palin; palinforfiorina; palinfreeperping; rino; sarahpalin
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To: FTJM

It has become about making money. ALL have their price.

The best of our country want nothing to do with this sewer called running for office.

Who really has our back? None...sad, our system invokes one to start the campaign fund raising the day the get elected and not focus on the issues at hand.

We are left to vote for third/forth tier people because the smart ones are working in the private sector.

Sarah fit’s the bill. She has no chance. And if this is our best shot, we are screwed. Flame on.


41 posted on 05/08/2010 10:46:42 AM PDT by mmanager (I'm not racist, I don't like the white half of him either.)
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To: LiberConservative

“So what, exactly makes Carly Fiorina a RINO? She’s pro-life, pro-gun, a fiscal conseravative, ???”

On 97 of 100 votes she would be identical to Devore. Devore is on a fool’s errand, an ego trip. And he was helping Campbell, who is a DISASTER. Many of the closet Mittsters around here are saying on thread that they support Campbell.

No conservative supports Campbell. They are acting as if they used to support Palin. They never did and she doesn’t need em. They are relatively few and, after she wins the nomination, most will come crawling back with their tales between their legs. The diehards will go off to support the John Anderson of 2012 in an effort to stop her. It won’t work but it will clean out the GOP once and for all.

Memo to the GOP Establishment: She is coming for you. We are going to take back the GOP that you took from the Reaganites in 1988 and we ain’t giving it back this time.


42 posted on 05/08/2010 10:47:09 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: FTJM

Wasn’t Fiorina in charge at H-P when they had to enter bankruptcy?


43 posted on 05/08/2010 10:49:35 AM PDT by abigailsmybaby ( I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did. Yogi Berra)
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To: cherry

by the same token, criticizing her does not imply a full denunciation

i see some posters here...some even the exact same ones...who created a cult of personality around Bush and rode herd over no criticism of him especially about immigration now back here doing exactly the same thing over Palin

whom I support...course I supported Bush too

but I also can and will criticize them when I disagree like now

it would not have hurt for Palin to have just waited it out

all this will sure make for some bloodletting here in the nomination process...that is for certain


44 posted on 05/08/2010 10:50:00 AM PDT by wardaddy (never been particularly pious but I stand with Franklin Graham...bigtime...you betcha...ya'll)
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To: NTHockey

Good post.


45 posted on 05/08/2010 10:51:00 AM PDT by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: grand wazoo

I don’t agree with her on this or Queeg but she is hardly politics as usual.

The left’s epilepsy over her is proof enough of that.


46 posted on 05/08/2010 10:51:12 AM PDT by wardaddy (never been particularly pious but I stand with Franklin Graham...bigtime...you betcha...ya'll)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

And how we will wind up with Mitt “Romneycare” Romney.

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I fear this. BO would win with a plurality, the GOP would implode, and it would be too late to form a successor party of authentic conservatives/libertarians.


47 posted on 05/08/2010 10:52:37 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Let me be clear. The voluntary celebration of Cinco de Quatro is mandated in all 57 states.)
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To: mmanager

One exception: I really think LtCol Allen West has our back. Seriously.


48 posted on 05/08/2010 10:54:40 AM PDT by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: bicyclerepair

“Sarah owed McLame big time. She had to pay him back.”

I repeat: You rub my back and I’ll rub yours. It’s political prostitution.


49 posted on 05/08/2010 10:55:07 AM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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♫I'm a RINO, you're a RINO, we're all RINO RINOs...♪

Really, the term 'RINO' has become so meaningless because people who assume that they are the baseline of a true Republican just toss around 'RINO' as an insult to anyone who disagrees with them. It's getting silly.

50 posted on 05/08/2010 11:01:25 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu (Waiting until things cool down)
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To: CSI007

Like you ever intended to in the first place...

- JP


51 posted on 05/08/2010 11:02:27 AM PDT by Josh Painter ("Every time a Democrat mocks Sarah Palin, an independent gets its wings." - JP)
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To: grand wazoo
"The bloom is off the rose. She is nothing more than politics as usual. If Arlen Specter returned to the GOP, she would endorse him."

Oh, come on!

There is nothing, nothing, similar between Carly Fiorina and Arlen Specter.

I wish you people would grow up and quit yelling "RINO, RINO" at everyone who you may have a slight disagreement with.

Carly is Conservative and she can beat Boxer.

Accusing Sarah Palin of supporting RINOs is asinine!

52 posted on 05/08/2010 11:02:49 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (He promised hope; he gave us hype. He promised change; he gave us chains!)
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To: wardaddy

“exact same ones...who created a cult of personality around Bush and rode herd over no criticism of him especially about immigration now back here doing exactly the same thing over Palin”

You couldn’t be further off. Palin and Bush are not in any way similar. I had misgivings about Bush and only supported him to stop Gore. Aside from the Court, he was pretty much an unmitigated disaster. He and his father before him spawned a quarter of a century of big government and they have given rise to Clinton and now Obama.

Palin should not be compared to Bush. She is an insurgent, anti-Establishment like Reagan. And like Reagan she is going to do some things that make ideological purists angry. Reagan picked the lib Schweiker (who turned more conservative later under Reagan’s influence) and he even campaigned for Chuck Percy when Phyllis Schlafly was ready to try to take him out in a primary.

You need to remember your history and not get drawn into this. Palin’s moves so far have made perfect sense, including this one where she is trying to get rid of Boxer and not give the seat to the execrable Tom Campbell.

BTW, I never defended Bush before he got the nomination. I was against him. Reagan, on the other hand, I supported when other conservatives were for Richard Nixon or George Wallace. And I supported him even when I wasn’t sure he was right, because I TRUSTED him. And I trust her in the same way. Trust does not amount to a cult of personality, as you say. In fact that is what the libs used to say about diehard Reaganites. Just because Reagan and Palin are the only two politician in 50 years to HAVE a personality doesn’t mean that their supporters were involved in a cult of personality.


53 posted on 05/08/2010 11:03:37 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: abigailsmybaby
She was forced out:

Hewlett-Packard Co. Chairman and CEO Carly Fiorina, one of the most powerful women in corporate America, is leaving the troubled computer maker after being forced out by the company's board.

Shares of HP (Research) jumped 6.9 percent in heavy trading on the New York Stock Exchange Wednesday on the news. But at one point, the stock was up as much as 10.5 percent.

"The stock is up a bit on the fact that nobody liked Carly's leadership all that much," said Robert Cihra, an analyst with Fulcrum Global Partners. "The Street had lost all faith in her and the market's hope is that anyone will be better."

Fiorina, the only female CEO at a company in the Dow Jones industrial average, had been with HP since 1999. But the company's controversial deal to buy Compaq in the spring of 2002 -- after a bruising proxy fight led by one of the Hewlett family heirs -- has not produced the shareholder returns or profits she had promised.

http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/09/technology/hp_fiorina/

54 posted on 05/08/2010 11:06:17 AM PDT by FTJM
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To: wardaddy
It would not have hurt for Palin to have just waited it out

The same people screaming at her for backing Fiorina would be screaming that she was too afraid to make a tough decision in a crucial Senate primary and thus too afraid to make tough decisions in the Oval Office.

Fiorina's record at Lucent and HP doesn't fill me with confidence in her executive abilities, but she's not running for an executive position. She might well be a better Senator than CEO. She's certainly proven to be more effective and even-tempered a candidate than DeVore.

Sarah Palin has to spend her political capital wisely for 2012 and it won't return dividends wasted on candidates who can't put themselves into serious contention.

55 posted on 05/08/2010 11:07:28 AM PDT by Loyalist (The British have voted and it's a three-way tie for second place!)
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To: Loyalist
I like your post here.

So long as Fiorina has all the important issues in common with me (such as being pro-life), and the other option - while maybe slightly more to my liking (or not) - does not have nearly the same chance of winning, why not vote for her?

56 posted on 05/08/2010 11:08:10 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu (Waiting until things cool down)
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To: CSI007

What if hundreds of thousands don’t agree with you? There are some pathetic conservatives who are a primary factor when we get beat. It goes like this: I want things exactly MY way, and if I don’t get it, then I’m going to pout and stay home and not vote and live with the consequences so they will see I was right. It’s exactly those folks who gave us Obama. Thanks a lot.


57 posted on 05/08/2010 11:09:11 AM PDT by righttackle44 (Is Obama an Irish, Italian or Japanese name?)
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To: FTJM

So is she competent enough to run this state? Sarah was touting CFs business creds wasn’t she?

What do you think of her?


58 posted on 05/08/2010 11:10:33 AM PDT by abigailsmybaby ( I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did. Yogi Berra)
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To: cherry
I am not a Palinista but I love her and appreciaBut she is doing EXACTLY what she needs to do....support other Pubs...

Party over Conservative principles is the same thinking the OP(formerly the GOP) has used for years in order to expand the voter base. The only result has been incremental socialism and allowed socialists to control the executive and legislative branches of government. It was a losing strategy then and will be again. Palin has been sucked into the same loser mentality.
59 posted on 05/08/2010 11:11:36 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: cherry
people have got to get a clue about how to get to the presidency

Unfortunately, the 300,000 votes from FR experts don't translate to a 51% win in congressional, senatatorial, and electoral races.

We sure know how to "make a statement", but someone(s) outside FR will have to lead the way to win elections and save the nation.

60 posted on 05/08/2010 11:11:47 AM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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