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Mormons on both sides in immigration controversy
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | April 30, 2010 | Peggy Fletcher Stack

Posted on 05/01/2010 6:30:15 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: AuntB

I dunno if you have seen the violence that has broken out and is continuing, but they’re rioting and such today. When we began to tolerate terrorists, I’ll never know, but that is what they are, and the American (U.S.) Public is getting very, very sick of it. I think the FedGov is trying to foment a revolt, but even if they get it, they’ll rue the day they started it.

We’re tired and get no breaks, just one slam after another, and the slow creeping of invaders has become a tidal wave, years after year. It’s nuts.


61 posted on 05/01/2010 11:02:01 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: JDW11235; All

Welcome to ANARCHY!!!
....and look at all the garbage on the streets!!!

YOU ALL MUST SEE THIS THING...there is NO police brutality...these people are masters at fear mongering & race baiting and they hate the cops!

May Day Immigration Reform Protest, Police Brutality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1kEu6eRklo


62 posted on 05/01/2010 11:27:29 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more ‘share the wealth’ socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Colofornian
No matter how much the LDS Church would like to remain neutral on the issue of illegal immigration, Mormon activists on opposite sides draw on their faith's doctrines or practices to buoy their positions.

Form Mormonism's CREED - the Articles of Faith:

 

 
THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
History of the Church, Vol. 4, pp. 535—541
 
 

12.   We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
 Joseph Smith

63 posted on 05/01/2010 3:58:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: svxdave
Unfortunately this well written article will bring out the anti-Mormon posters on Free Republic but the fact is, there are people of all faiths and persuasions on both sides of this issue.

Unfortunately, I'll be posting authentic, genuine, published for years MORMON data.

If THAT somehow offends certain people; what does that say about them?

64 posted on 05/01/2010 4:01:11 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana
If Russell Pearce is so moral, why is he opposing a very moral law in his state ???

State??

It's a FEDERAL law that is being 'supported'!!

65 posted on 05/01/2010 4:03:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

That line was not a quote from anyone, but rather merely commentary from the writer itself. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, as an organization, believes in sustaining the law, and takes issue on moral issues (Pornography, Prohibition, Marriage Definition, Abortion, etc.). The definition of Legal vs. illegal Immigration is not a moral one, and thus there is no position on the “Issue of Illegal Immigration,” other than to sustain the law, not how that law is defined.

That portion was written for the express purpose to mislead, as shown by the ambiguity and nature of language used.


66 posted on 05/01/2010 9:31:14 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Elsie

“It’s a FEDERAL law that is being ‘supported’!!”

Bears repeating. I read several pages (all the pertinent ones that are being thrown around) today, and there is nothing wrong with this law, IMO, as it merely enforces the Existing Federal law, as you did us a favor in pointing out.


67 posted on 05/01/2010 9:33:26 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Vendome
You cannot get on a commercial plane NOR on a private plane without your visa and passport. PERIOD!

There is a loop hole, this doesn't disagree with the point that you are making, but just for trivia fun, I have traveled to Belgium, Holland for a week, France a couple of times for fairly long stays, and Germany many times, all with never a passport or visa, in fact having never had either. That included commercial flights.

68 posted on 05/02/2010 3:52:59 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney-"I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there")
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To: ansel12

Really? How did you get on a plane or get a hotel?

I have always been asked for my passport.


69 posted on 05/02/2010 5:08:12 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

A piece of paper with NATO orders coming out of a copy machine. I don’t recall ever showing them, but I was always part of a several, to up to 21 other guys, so maybe they showed papers, perhaps I showed my piece of copied standard office paper too, but I don’t remember doing it.

We usually travelled in plain clothes also, with non military haircuts on most of us.


70 posted on 05/02/2010 10:35:45 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney-"I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there")
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To: Vendome
Vendome, Shakira was using Clintonian word parsing...read it again:

Dr. Gupta then asks “So you didn't bring your papers to Arizona?”

Shakira then feigns exasperation, saying “I didn't. NO”

Her business manager, or her personal assistant carried the documentation and cleared her through...these celebs don't do anything for themselves!

She was therefore able to make the point that she was on the side of the illegals that are flooding our country.

71 posted on 05/04/2010 7:25:16 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (The immigrant, legal or illegal, is always right -- and the native-born citizen's always wrong.)
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To: greyfoxx39

I gaurantee you that is not the way it happened. I have traveled with very wealthy people and they carry those documents themselves.

It is the law in every country.

Besides it’s just plain silly to walk up to customs and tell them “talk to my assistant”. That is an invitation for disaster and waiting around in an airport.

The assistants do have copies of those documents and they make the arrangements but they don’t carry them.

Not saying there aren’t some that carry them but, never the less, you aren’t getting on any private plane without your I.D..

They will ask for your passport before you even enter the facilities and your supporting documents sometimes.

Mostly, when in an international private facility, you only need to present your passport.

She did not get on any plane, in America, without showing her passport and I still say Bravo Sierra, she is a liar.


72 posted on 05/04/2010 7:43:07 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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