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You know I have nothing against Organ donation, there is little doubt that the program saves lives but taking government mandates to harvest our organs that is a bit too far down the Liberal slippery slope.

Now when you context this with the government takeover of Healthcare and the push for computerized medical records it gets extremely scary and not very far-fetched to imagine a future that when one of our elite masters needs an organ transplant a quick database search for DNA and blood type match will result in an untimely accident (wink) for an Obamacare patient?

1 posted on 04/28/2010 4:41:04 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey
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Will the citizens of New York State be justly compensated for the state seizing their organs?


2 posted on 04/28/2010 4:43:03 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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If the government knows your medical life, they can ORDER you to donate “non vital” parts.


3 posted on 04/28/2010 4:43:49 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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The government now owns your body too.

Think about this question:

Now that there will be no “organ shortage” what will their excuse be when they start denying transplants to all those on the lists?

Because the money is NOT there. That is why there are lists in the first place.


5 posted on 04/28/2010 4:44:21 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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You will be able to opt out, supposedly.
“To fix that, Brodsky introduced a new bill in Albany that would enroll all New Yorkers as an organ donor, unless they actually opt out of organ donation. It would be the first law of its kind in the United States.”


7 posted on 04/28/2010 4:45:35 PM PDT by AirForceMom (Molon Labe)
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8 posted on 04/28/2010 4:45:38 PM PDT by jimbo123
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WCBSTV
9 posted on 04/28/2010 4:46:05 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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Leave it to polititians to take a good idea and turn it into an immoral fiasco like this.


10 posted on 04/28/2010 4:47:13 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You don't have to be ignorant to be a Democrat...but if you are...so what?)
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Could be a little noisy!


12 posted on 04/28/2010 4:48:10 PM PDT by Dem Guard
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Open the organ donation program to free enterprise, and pay the survivors for the organs. The market will be flooded.

The statists have put on market controls and set the price for organs (to the donor) of $0, and guess what they created-—a shortage!

Not too hard to figure out a real solution.


14 posted on 04/28/2010 4:50:02 PM PDT by BigBobber
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15 posted on 04/28/2010 4:50:54 PM PDT by Bean Counter (The man who sits on the most exhaulted throne is still seated on his own arse, (Anon))
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This is VERY clever.

Once we have socialized medicine, it will be a good thing that more people are being denied treatment and dying, because we’ll always have a piping hot pile of fresh organs or other people to (think they’re going to) get.


17 posted on 04/28/2010 4:51:08 PM PDT by Feline_AIDS (http://youngandright.wordpress.com/)
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Brodsky introduced a new bill in Albany that would enroll all New Yorkers as an organ donor, unless they actually opt out of organ donation.

Next step, remove the opt out.

Third step, implement the Chinese model, condemned prisoners are mandatory donors, just like the citizens.

And like China, hate speech is a capital offense.

20 posted on 04/28/2010 4:52:45 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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The bidness of organlegging:

“Organlegging is the name of a fictional crime in the Known Space universe created by Larry Niven. It is the illicit trade of black market human organs for transplant. The term organlegging is a portmanteau combining the words “organ” and “bootlegging”, literally the piracy and smuggling of organs.[1]

The crime developed as a response to the Organ Bank Problem, a concept featured prominently in the early Known Space stories, particularly those set in the twenty first and twenty second century. The Organ Bank Problem is a central theme in the novel A Gift from Earth, as well as the Gil Hamilton detective stories. As speculative fiction, the concept is a prime example of a gedanken experiment. It is an examination of the consequences to society of a new technology (in this case, the perfection of organ transplants) and an existing problem (organ shortage), carried to a logical conclusion.

The effect of technology on society is a recurring theme in Niven’s stories.”

from wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organlegging


21 posted on 04/28/2010 4:54:06 PM PDT by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir!)
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“I’m not dead yet!”

“Don’t be silly. You’ll be stone cold in a minute!”

“I’m getting better. I feel happy.”

THWACK!


23 posted on 04/28/2010 4:59:27 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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not very far-fetched to imagine a future that when one of our elite masters needs an organ transplant a quick database search for DNA and blood type match will result in an untimely accident (wink) for an Obamacare patient?

That's exactly the system China has right now, they just use prisoners condemned for serial jaywalking.

Oh, and if your just filthy rich but not connected to the government, well, your money's good too!

24 posted on 04/28/2010 5:00:23 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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Members of the Religion of Pieces are exempt,no doubt.As are “wiccans”.
26 posted on 04/28/2010 5:01:09 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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I could just see the Death Panel now: “Psst, Joe, y’know, if he dies, we could really use that liver...”


27 posted on 04/28/2010 5:01:35 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Obi-Wan Palin: Strike her down and she shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.)
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This is not organ donation, it’s organ confiscation.

My plan is to make my organs useless to the confiscators due to high fat content: bratwursts and beer. If they come for my organs before that’s successful, then it’s Winchesters and Colts.


28 posted on 04/28/2010 5:02:29 PM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "P" in democrat stands for patriotism)
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Has Obama's Healthcare Law spelled out just who will be running the Transplant Panels?
Don't expect the insurance companies to pick up more than a fraction of the total cost--not while Obamacare has a big fat IV tube inserted into the taxpayer's wallet.

Organ transplant surgery is very expensive

The initial testing that's required in order for a patient to be placed on the waiting list for a transplant can cost tens of thousands of dollars, even if the patient is not hospitalized.

It is not uncommon for the cost of the transplant surgery and following hospitalization to result in a bill that exceeds $500,000. Unfortunately, the expenses do not end with surgery; the cost of medications in the year after surgery typically exceeds $30,000 a year.

Ideally, a patient will have primary insurance to pay the majority of the transplant expenses and a secondary form of insurance to pay the remaining expenses. Even with excellent insurance coverage that pays 80% of the total bill, the remaining 20% can exceed $100,000 from the surgery alone. With secondary or supplemental insurance coverage, the remaining 20% may be paid by the insurance company rather than the patient.

How to Pay For an Organ Transplant

30 posted on 04/28/2010 5:18:53 PM PDT by henbane
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oh great. Now the phrase "over my dead body" is useless. They want my dead body.

Time to enjoy each day to its fullest. Time to party like there's no tomorrow... or move to another State. NYS is a hazard to ones health.

31 posted on 04/28/2010 5:21:20 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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