Posted on 04/24/2010 3:19:30 PM PDT by pissant
Only hours after the Florida House and Senate voted to opt out of the new federal health law, the top U.S. health official said Thursday night that will not be permitted.
Without mentioning any particular state or going into detail, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said that state and local officials can vent all they want about a so-called federal takeover of health care. But they cannot deny their citizens access to its benefits or requirements, she told the Association of Health Care Journalists.
They may want to opt out, but they dont get to opt out all of their citizens who want and need health care, Sebelius said.
Florida has an estimated 4 million uninsured, most of whom will be covered when the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ACA) takes full effect in 2014.
At least 30 states have passed state constitutional amendment legislation similar to that approved by the Florida Legislature, according to theNational Conference of State Legislatures.
Sebelius said the backlash against the ACA has been ginned up by misinformation, much of it deliberate. Thus HHS will be setting up an Internet site to answer frequent questions and a toll-free helpline, similar to that operated for Medicare beneficiaries. HHS staff members present at the conference said they hope to have the Internet site up by July 1 and the help desk soon after.
(Excerpt) Read more at healthnewsflorida.org ...
>>> Human rights? That term is in the US Constitution?
yeah... as in right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
The question then was whether or not a black man was human, and therefore entitled to those same rights.
I cannot believe i’m hearing this stuff from fellow freepers.
You made my point better than I did. You don't trade one form of slavery for another.
How do you, then, explain the chattel slavery in the North? General Grant had black slaves to serve him, even when he was on duty during the war! The parties who really made money on slavery were the New England Yankee traders-many of whom are the origins of quite a few of the old New England blue-blood family fortunes—Yankee traders who dominated the transatlantic slave trade, even after it was legally terminated per the Constitution, long before the Civil War. States aren’t mere vassals of the Federal Government...each (State governments and the Fed) is sovereign in their respective different areas, assigned by the US Constitution. But Hell, I guess you can’t expect a non-citizen like Obama and his minions to realize that.
“If it was not a states choice to comply or reject Lincolns anti-slavery edict that defined them as confederate or union, then what was it?”
Secession. The Emancipation Proclamation did jack for slaves in Union controlled areas. It was a failed attempted - well into the war - to raise a fifth column.
The Union did not free the last of its own slaves until the winter of 1865-1866, and then went on to spread justice and freedom to the Sioux, Cheyenne, Crow, Comanche, Nez Perce etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
Amen.
>>> Sorry, friend. Wrong. Dead wrong. Not even close. It was ENTIRELY about States rights.
The states had overstepped their bounds on states rights by violating individual rights.
Are you suggesting that the southern states were willing to give up slave ownership?
Particularly WHICH states rights are you referring to that led them to war then?
Apparently “we won” means a greatly different thing to most Americans than it does to Obama.
You miss the point. Lincoln didn't start The Civil War to abolish slavery. He tossed that one in to keep it going. Do a little reserch on the matter.
>>> Secession.
Why did they secede?
That’s your opinion.
Your ignorance is astounding.
I am not blocking it. The Congress and the President are.
What the war was fought for, in your opinion , and what we have now are two different things.
If you think the states are not subordinate to the federal Government , it isnt I , who are wrong.
Did you actually read Sebelius’s statement the Feds will not allow Florida to opt out? Do you really bel;ieve they will let Florida opt out?
For a number of reasons. Do a little research. Slavery only came up after draft riots occurred. By the way slavery was wrong then and it is still wrong today. Think about that.
I really don’t think the States will try to secede—I think that the States are in the process of SUCCESSFULLY reasserting their sovereignty within their own borders as prescribed by the US Constitution, within the Union.
I’m not “suggesting” that the southern states were “willing to give up slave ownership”....it’s a fact.
Look, no offense intended, but it’s not my place to write a treatise on slavery and the Civil War here in a post on FR. I will respectfully suggest you forget the drivel you were fed in public school and actually research it.
Slavery was dying in the South; that is a fact. The war was fought over States’ right, end of story. Here in the South, the average Southerner knows FAR more about the war than the average northerner....for many reasons. Long memories down here. They don’t call it “The War of Northern Oppression” for nothing.
Or national ones either.
And that is what we want. Off to SCOTUS for a ruling.
Oh, I think that Obama is TRYING to assert Federal sovereignty over the states as vassals-—I just don’t believe that Obama and his ilk are gonna actually be able to pull it off.
The socialists think the several sovereign states of the USA are vassal states to pay tribute to the King, Lord and Master of the USA. That is how they see it. They have no respect for Federalism as established and codified under the US Constitution.
We are in a massive culture war for the direction of the nation - whether we will be free or soon be slaves. This is about nothing less.
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