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Volcano Spews More Ash, Spawns Wider Flight Chaos
AP/Yahoo ^ | 4-17-2010 | Paisley Dodds

Posted on 04/17/2010 6:08:49 AM PDT by blam

Volcano Spews More Ash, Spawns Wider Flight Chaos

Associated Press Writer Paisley Dodds
4-17-2010

LONDON – A lingering volcanic ash plume forced extended no-fly restrictions over much of Europe on Saturday, as Icelandic scientists warned that volcanic activity had increased and showed no sign of abating — a portent of more travel chaos to come.

Scientists say that because the volcano is situated below a glacial ice cap, the magma is being cooled quickly, causing explosions and plumes of grit that can be catastrophic to plane engines if prevailing winds are right.

"The activity has been quite vigorous overnight, causing the eruption column to grow," Icelandic geologist Magnus Tumi Gudmundsson told The Associated Press on Saturday. "It's the magma mixing with the water that creates the explosivity. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be an end in sight."

An expansive cloud of grit hovered over parts of western Europe on Saturday, triggering extended flight bans that stranded people around the globe. Continued volcanic activity could produce more plumes if the weather patterns stay the same.

The Icelandic Meteorological Office said the amount of ash in the plume grew Saturday and that the vast ash cloud is continuing to travel south and southeast. Scientists had planned to fly over the volcano to see how much ice has melted to determine how much longer the eruption could spew ash, but the Icelandic Coast Guard said Saturday's flight had been postponed.

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To: EBH

Thank you!


181 posted on 04/17/2010 4:39:58 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: blam

I heard some “expert” say that the glass in the air would be sucked into the engines, melt and clog them, I call BS.


182 posted on 04/17/2010 4:43:11 PM PDT by X-FID
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To: toldyou
Just put in my first order...enuff for six weeks for wifey and me; if "chaos" were to last longer than that, we'd be dead anyhow.....bonus: with the long shelf life, this stuff will still be in the closet for the kid to eat after he buries us -- legacy food.

http://www.survival-warehouse.com/

Got the tip from a FReeper upthread, and just pulled the trigger.

183 posted on 04/17/2010 4:53:59 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: X-FID
I heard some “expert” say that the glass in the air would be sucked into the engines, melt and clog them, I call BS. If you look at it under a microscope, it will look like a three-dimensional spur -- or a shard of broken glass.

If you breathe it in high density, it will grind up your lungs. If a jet engine ingests it, nothing good is going to happen.

184 posted on 04/17/2010 5:41:25 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: ErnBatavia

Thanks.


185 posted on 04/17/2010 5:54:51 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Parents have dominion over their children, too. We’re to be guardians and caretakers of the world, not exploiters.


186 posted on 04/17/2010 6:35:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: X-FID

You really should read these threads. It really will bringa plane down. Cut off the engines. Happened in the 80s one time, they were able to bring the engines on again a few thousand feet from the ground.

They wouldn’t be grounding all these flights and losing millions of dollars a day on a whim.


187 posted on 04/17/2010 6:38:08 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: ncfool

Actually from what I have read, a volcanic eruption like this could cause cooling. Looking forward to reading more from geologists here on FR and other forums.


188 posted on 04/17/2010 6:46:36 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: blam

Guess they better increase the water supply to California’s central valley. These farms will be needed to feed the world. Craziness keeping them from cultivating the land.


189 posted on 04/17/2010 6:49:26 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: toldyou

I was just joking. This will be food for the 2012 crowd.

I don’t go in for either prophesies or predictions.

My sister, a fundamentalist born-again Christian, has already called the world’s end twice, and her average isn’t doing so well. I feel the same way about all the other predictions of Armageddon. All prior predictions being wrong, I’m not inclined to believe any future predictions.

The fact is, nobody knows God’s plan or the timing of it.

It is man’s folly to think we are above nature — that we have conquered the elements of disease. It is only a matter of time before we come up againts something very big which we can’t handle. The die-off will likely be correspondingly big. The better you do fighting off diseases and extending life expectancy, you are probably less prepared when that one unique

Imagine if AIDS was spread by airborne methods. At least Ebola kills people so fast they don’t have time to spread it very far. An airborne AIDS would have everyone infected before the 1st people had the symptoms. The die off would include everyone who did not have a natural immunity to developing AIDS.

So yes, there will be huge deadly catastrophes from time to time and perhaps one of them will bring out extinction. A disease, a meteor or comet strike, a worldwide famine, a virus, a nuclear exchange.

Who knows.

I was just joking about the 2012 doomers using this event as the beginning of our impending Mayan-predicted doom, which will likely to prove as false, silly and wrong as my sister’s 2 prior predictions of the world’s end.


190 posted on 04/17/2010 6:50:42 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Bye bye Miss American Freedom. When did we vote for Communism?)
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To: RegulatorCountry

You said it better than I but did I say it so wrong that nobody knew what I meant?


191 posted on 04/17/2010 6:51:17 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Bye bye Miss American Freedom. When did we vote for Communism?)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

“Exploitation” is a hotbutton word, that’s all I wanted to get past.

Yes, it’s accurate to an extent, but it’s also freighted with negative connotation.

I didn’t mean to sound as if I was correcting, so much as elaborating.

Apologies if I came across that way, the internet sometimes projects things that aren’t really there, as far as the written word.


192 posted on 04/17/2010 7:38:47 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

I’m sometimes amazed we can communicate at all in writing without any nuance, vocal inflection, eye contact. There is lots of room for miscommunication.

I read and respond to so much information anymore that I become very sloppy in my word choice. You were much more precise with your choice of words than I was.

I also suffer from a backlash from Political Correctness. I’ve come to hate euphemisms so I tend to go overboard the other way. “Exploit” was blunt and I thought effective as I was running down the power structure which was God over earth over man over animals and plants.


193 posted on 04/18/2010 12:56:07 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Bye bye Miss American Freedom. When did we vote for Communism?)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

It was said:
“What terrifies me is some cataclysm that causes us to lose our modern technology, so we fall back into a hunter/gatherer basic agrarian lifestyle with no chance to leap out of it because all of the technology necessary is lost and has to be re-discovered from scratch.
That terrifies me.”

Many of species still live in that state, having yet to modernize. Thinking there would be no chance to ‘leap out of it’ doesn’t seem so reasonable... evidence and remnants of technology likely should remain even if devastating but survivable events occur. There would be discoveries of prior tech greatly more inspiring than digging up King Tut.

I’d rather be a slave to nature than mostly exist as a slave to other humans. In my book, hunting, gathering and competing against other humans in a natural environment is highly preferable to being a battery or dairy cow.


194 posted on 04/18/2010 6:52:24 AM PDT by Colcord
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To: Steve Van Doorn; Quix

Awesome photo of static lightning from Eyjaf!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/18/article-1266852-092BE3BE000005DC-562_634x417.jpg


195 posted on 04/18/2010 5:56:26 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Finnish f-18 hornet damage from Eyjaf.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/04/16/340727/pictures-finnish-f-18-engine-check-reveals-effects-of-volcanic.html


196 posted on 04/18/2010 6:23:43 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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