You Have the Right to Remain Silent (LT Colonel Lakin Read His Rights)

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[Man50D]

Washington, D.C., April 13, 2010. Army doctor Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin yesterday met with his brigade commander, Col. Gordon R. Roberts, who proceeded to read LTC Lakin his Miranda rights, and who informed LTC Lakin he had the “right to remain silent” because LTC Lakin is about to be charged with serious crimes. Col. Roberts was at age 19 awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, the only recipient of the nation’s highest honor currently on active duty in the Army.

LTC Lakin had previously been ordered in writing to report yesterday to Ft. Campbell, KY and then on to deploy for his second tour of duty in Afghanistan. Lakin refused to obey these orders and instead came to work yesterday morning at the Pentagon. Late yesterday afternoon he was confronted by his brigade commander.

Before the meeting was over, LTC Lakin’s Pentagon Access Pass had been revoked, and his laptop computer was set to be confiscated.

The message to LTC Lakin is clear; through official channels, he was informed yesterday that he will shortly be court-martialled for crimes (specifically, missing movement and conduct unbecoming an officer) that for others has led to lengthy imprisonment at hard labor.

Lakin has announced in a YouTube video that has now been viewed more than 110,000 times that he considers it his duty to refuse to obey orders that would be illegal if President Obama is ineligible to hold office.

Meanwhile, cries mount for proof of that eligibility, but nothing has been forthcoming. The Obama campaign at one point released a copy of computer-generated abstract of information purportedly in Hawaii's records system, but the source of this information is unclear and need not have been a birth certificate issued contemporaneously and signed by the doctor who attended the birth. Even the document released was only a copy, and the version printed in the Los Angeles Times on June 16, 2008 is on a form only in use since late 2001. Even as it is, the document contains a warning that it is merely “prima facie”--threshold, rebuttable and thus inconclusive --evidence of birth, and the copy the Times printed mysteriously has the certificate number blacked out, thereby rendering the document unusable according to language on the bottom.

Given the seriousness of the offenses with which LTC Lakin is about to be charged, the American Patriot Foundation today renewed its plea for donations to its legal defense fund for LTC Lakin. Details are available at APF's website, www.safeguardourconstitution.com

[edge919]

Now, if Lakin has proof that Obama was born in Kenya, he’ll do fine. But for ‘discovery’, at most he will be allowed to see a copy of the previously posted Birth Certificate. He won’t be allowed to challenge its veracity unless he had PROOF!

I'd be very surprised if Obama let the alleged COLB anywhere near a court of law. A jpg isn't going to be sufficient.

[JoSixChip]

"I suspect they will go on statements by state officials, or at most get a copy of the birth certificate that birthers claim means nothing"

Not without a signature, I've sat in a military court martial as a witness where the judge rejected civilian documents because there was no signature on them. A Hawaii state official can not make a statement of fact based on a public record with out releasing that document to the public. I suspect you are wrong in your assumptions.

[little jeremiah]

Not long ago you jumped into the eligibility threads with both feet. I checked your posting history and until very recently your sole interest was regular trivia and what is to me religious sect trivia. Then, all of a sudden, both feet on the eligibility threads.

You write as though the 2 years of incredible research and information provided by numerous freepers wasn’t in existence.

And your attitude sucks.

[little jeremiah]

I don’t get you saying that you think he is “ultimately” (whatever that means...) ineligible but not a fraud.

That would only work if he thought he was eligible but wrong about it. Then why would he hide/scrub/delete every scrap of his past that he possibly could? Only guilty people do that.

He knows whether he is ineligible or not. So therefore, if he is not eligible, he is a fraud.

Can’t have it both ways.

[Las Vegas Ron]

State courts have the right to review that process. And in this case, the courts determined that Obama IS a natural born citizen, and gave their reasoning.

For their own election rules maybe, but not for the Country.

[BuckeyeTexan]

Do we know if Obama has exercised the rights of a citizen in the U.K. or in Kenya? (Let’s set aside the BNA of 1948 for now.)

Do we have any evidence that he exercized his foreign citizenship rights in either of those countries before becoming POTUS? (Set aside the passport issues for now.)

Has Obama taken any action when visiting either of those countries that would indicate he is behaving as anything other than American citizen?

This is not a challenge or a test. I’m just curious where this might lead.

Tex

[Las Vegas Ron]

Fraud, ineligible = six of one half dozen of the other as far as I can tell.

Why do you battle the people on the BC threads so much that are trying to expose him and find the truth?

[BuckeyeTexan]

Damn! How could I forget you? Join us if you wish.

[Getsmart64]

Are you suggesting that more than a month after the general elections there were still states in which the votes had not been fully counted and certified by the Secretaries of State?

Well, call me a loon but if you think this election was honest, you're crazier than I am.

[David]

Under the Supreme Court’s “de facto officer” doctrine established in 1886 even the orders of an ineligible or illegal elected official must be carried out. The de facto officer doctrine confers validity upon acts performed by a person acting under the color of official title even though it is later discovered that the legality of that person’s appointment or election to office is deficient.

Arguably, those cases are not applicable here because they deal with adjective defects in the appointment or designation process.

The situation with Obama is different because the Constitution says that he is not eligible to hold the office of President at all; doesn't make any difference how he got there or what bases he touched or didn't touch along the way.

He isn't a de facto officer because part of the fact is missing. You could certify all day that he was a citizen; or born in the US; that is a part of the office and if he wasn't a citizen or wasn't born in the US, he isn't the officer.

[bushpilot1]

“We start,” Justice Douglas wrote for the Court, “from the premise that the rights of citizenship of the native–born and of the naturalized person are of the same dignity and are coextensive. The only difference drawn by the Constitution is that only the ‘natural born’ citizen is eligible to be President.”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/html/art1frag64_user.html

[bvw]

He has mocked Great Britain in his official gifts to their ministers and regents come to visit, in returning the statute of Churchill. That is consistent with the behavior of a man considering himself aligned with Kenyan anti-colonial forces than an American. Americans always have been staunch friends of England.

[Las Vegas Ron]

All excellent question and ones that deserve answers.

That's the whole thing with this guy, we don't know sh!t about him and in the interim he is destroying the Country.

I can't figure it out, as far as I'm concerned the bustard should have been tarred and feathered by now.

[bvw]

The real President is Dick Cheney, imo, given all the fraud of the 2008 election, one cannot consider that the Biden is VP-legitimate.

[Getsmart64]

Conduct unbecoming? That's relatively minor, it's the missing movement that will cost him his career.

He cannot defend against the Article 87...the 133 is whole 'nother story...should be good drama...

[browardchad]

Now we do have confirmation of a court martial, if NBC has it right:

Army to court martial 'birther' officer

U.S. military officials tell NBC News that the U.S. Army will court martial a lieutenant colonel who refuses to deploy to Afghanistan because he considers orders from President Obama to be "illegal." 

[JoSixChip]

This case has nothing to do with this and zero relevance to the UCMJ.

Quote: Norton v. Shelby County, 118 U.S. 425 (1886)
"A case where certain bonds were sold in Shelby County, Tennessee. The point of contention was whether the commissioners who were allegedly authorized to sell the bonds were indeed lawfully appointed."

[stockpirate]

BP his real handle is Rahm-sequitur and he is a massive tur.....ah troll.

[TauntedTiger]

Meanwhile, BHO dba POTUS is freestyling his wacky brand of national security logic on LIVE TV to the world.

[bushpilot1]

“We start,” Justice Douglas wrote for the Court, “from the premise that the rights of citizenship of the native–born and of the naturalized person are of the same dignity and are coextensive. The only difference drawn by the Constitution is that only the ‘natural born’ citizen is eligible to be President.”

What is the difference between a native born and a natural born? A native born can have one parent a US citizen, a natural born must have both parents us citizens.