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ObamaCare Requires Micro Chipping of Americans?

Posted on 04/05/2010 2:25:16 PM PDT by TigerBait

Required RFID implanted chip Sec. 2521, Pg. 1000 – The government will establish a National Medical Device Registry. What does a National Medical Device Registry mean?

National Medical Device Registry from H.R. 3200 [Healthcare Bill], pages 1001-1008:

(g)(1) The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that— ‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; ‘‘(B)and is— ‘‘(i) a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining.”

Then on page 1004 it describes what the term “data” means in paragraph 1,

section B: ‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to information respecting a device described in paragraph (1), including claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary”

What exactly is a class II device that is implantable? Approved by the FDA, a class II implantable device is an “implantable radio frequency transponder system for patient identification and health information.” The purpose of a class II device is to collect data in medical patients such as “claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary.”

http://goldfuture.wordpress.com/2010/03/19/both-house-and-senate-health-bills-require-the-micro-chipping-of-americans-31810/

Backup article where Obama supporter questions this use:

http://current.com/news/90842279_coverage-under-obamacare-will-require-an-implantable-microchip.htm


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ajntsa; chip; obamacare; tinfoil
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1 posted on 04/05/2010 2:25:16 PM PDT by TigerBait
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To: TigerBait

The mark of the beast. Can not buy or sell goods without the mark of the beast upon forehead or hand.


2 posted on 04/05/2010 2:29:32 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: TigerBait

Totalitarian madness.


3 posted on 04/05/2010 2:29:48 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: TigerBait

Is that in Section 666?


4 posted on 04/05/2010 2:33:49 PM PDT by Argus
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To: TigerBait

think of it as telemetry equipment


5 posted on 04/05/2010 2:33:52 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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To: TigerBait

They WILL NEVER “Tatoo” ME!


6 posted on 04/05/2010 2:34:26 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: TigerBait

Break out the tin foil hats!

Apparently the goal is to have all of your personal medical information on a microchip in the event of an emergency.

If you want medical treatment you’ll be required to get one. Starting out with implanted devices.

What’s that in the Bible about the whole won’t be able to buy or sell thing??


7 posted on 04/05/2010 2:34:53 PM PDT by TigerBait
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To: TigerBait

Newbie - I’d advise you to double up the Reynolds Wrap on your tin foil hat.

That way the microchips wont transmit or receive.


8 posted on 04/05/2010 2:36:01 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: TigerBait
mark of the beast Pictures, Images and Photos
9 posted on 04/05/2010 2:36:53 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: broken_arrow1

REV 9And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Odumbo and his cronies can kiss my lilly white ass if they think I’ll accept it.


10 posted on 04/05/2010 2:37:04 PM PDT by diverteach (D.C. has become Jonestown)
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To: TigerBait

Good my insulin pump falls under a class 1 medical device so type 2 and 3 must be things like artifical hips and other implanted devices?


11 posted on 04/05/2010 2:38:53 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: WellyP

Not the reason: I was introduced to an old Jewish man in 1982. One day he had his shirt sleaves rolled up. He say me staring at his Aschwitz tatoo.

He said, “You have never seen one have you?” he said, “Now you know “it” happened.

“Please promise me you will never get a tatoo of any kind.” I promised him and in his honor I will NEVER allow my self to be tatooed!


12 posted on 04/05/2010 2:39:31 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: broken_arrow1

Let’s see how this plays out. Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Amen!


13 posted on 04/05/2010 2:40:44 PM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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Every generation has thought the end was soon. But, man, this stuff really is matching perfectly with Revelations. Who would have thought just a generation ago that the time would come when we would actually have to have a number to buy or sell.


14 posted on 04/05/2010 2:44:56 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Founding Fathers.....grave....rolling over.)
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To: TigerBait

And they called Alex Jones crazy.


15 posted on 04/05/2010 2:45:03 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Cool heads prevail)
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To: TigerBait
Umm, doesn't sound too sinister to me.

Current implantable devices, pacemakers, artificial hearts, etc., store data on their operation.

Not to say this couldn't be abused later, but by itself, this is nothing to get the willies over.

16 posted on 04/05/2010 2:50:08 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: broken_arrow1

the mark of the beast upon forehead or hand.<<<

It is my understanding that the scripture actually says the mark will be “in” the forehead or hand


17 posted on 04/05/2010 2:50:36 PM PDT by timetostand (Ya say ya wanna revolution -- OK!)
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To: WellyP
"They WILL NEVER “Tatoo” ME!"

Obama Nape Bar Code

18 posted on 04/05/2010 2:50:55 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: TigerBait
H.R. 3200 was the houses bill and that is not the one that passed. You need to find out if that is in the passed bill.

HEALTH CARE BILL PASSED BY BOTH HOUSE AND SENATE H.R. 3590

19 posted on 04/05/2010 2:51:18 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: TigerBait

FDA medical device classes are described here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_device
Class II=wheelchairs etc. (generally not implantable)
Class III=heart valves, breast implants

The medical registry simply is a centralized repository so that the government knows who has what devices and what has happened to them healthwise. The idea is to improve patient safety since without a good denominator, it is hard to come up with objective estimates of the risks associated with devices and whether these vary with observable patient characteristics (age, gender, race, level of disease). In theory, this is useful information to know.

Will the government abuse this collection of patient outcome information? Who knows? What is clear is that this provision has nothing to do with mandating that everyone have a microchip implanted. It’s simply saying that IF you use certain classes of medical devices, you must be included in a national registry to track and report these outcomes.

The point isn’t to publicize that “Patient X” died from a device, but instead to be able to say things such as “Mortality risk for male patients age 55-64 is 1 in 10,000; for female patients in that age, it is 1 in 20,000” etc. In theory this is information you and your doctor would want to have when deciding about whether to use a Brand X medical device. And properly used, the information should not compromise patient privacy.


20 posted on 04/05/2010 2:58:15 PM PDT by DrC
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