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Deadline USA: It's why many Texans haven't returned their Census forms (counting as of Apr 1)
Houston Chronicle ^ | April 01, 2010 | Tom McIlroy

Posted on 04/01/2010 12:06:23 PM PDT by a fool in paradise

Today is national Census Day, the official date used as a marking point for the biennial national population count.

...Texas has been lagging behind the rest of the country.

But our Texas on the Potomac readers say there's a very good reason why they hadn't return them before today: The form states that the Census count takes place on April 1.

Question 1 on the Census form asks: "How many people are living in this house on April 1st?"

..."The form has been widely publicized as being a legal requirement and at our house, we're not about to sign and file with the government a legal document attesting to something as of April 1, until that date has come," said TxPotomac reader Geoff Arms.

Only 46 percent of Texas households have mailed back their census forms to date, lower than the nationwide average of 52 percent...

Ben Tobias... "I believe that the wording in the Census form about information being effective on April 1st causes people to delay responding until after that date," he said.

"To complete the Census earlier that April 1st could be considered fraud on a Federal document because circumstances in individual residences could change."

Michael Gregorio, spokesperson for the U.S. Census Bureau told TxPotomac that the instructions clearly explained that April 1 is not the deadline to return your form.

"It is clear when you read the Census instructions that April 1 is not a deadline for Census participation but only the reference date that the process uses for the count," he said.

"We expect a bump in the participation rate nationwide as of today or tomorrow because some people don't want to return it until after Census day..."

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.chron.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2010census; census2010; legaldocument; texas
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To: Monorprise
Texas might get a few more electoral votes as a result of this census, so I don't mind them knowing how many of us there are down here. That's really all they need to know, though.
41 posted on 04/01/2010 12:40:43 PM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: ravingnutter

Gave the # of residents, nothing more.


42 posted on 04/01/2010 12:46:11 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$ or PETA.)
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To: lwd
Are they trying to count people in heavily democratic districts twice?

Why not? THere is no stated requirement that the respondent be a US Citizen, nor is there a question which permits one to address that.

Which means any 'resident' at the address is required to fill out the form, and illegals and legal visitors alike can be counted just the same as American Citizens. How's that for skewing the results? (especially in light of the different flavors of 'hispanicity' question)

43 posted on 04/01/2010 12:47:29 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: I Buried My Guns

Sorry to hear this tragic news. I lost all my firearms in a similar accident on Lake Michigan


44 posted on 04/01/2010 12:49:20 PM PDT by Knute
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To: Monorprise

Since they were the ones that picked the date of April 1st for the count, put down 30 people and then write “April Fools” at the bottom ; )


45 posted on 04/01/2010 12:50:29 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Voter62vb
Be counted so you can get yours

Actually, your fair share! Not your fair 'say' in government.

46 posted on 04/01/2010 12:51:27 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: a fool in paradise

On Fox: $5,000 fine for not answering all the questions on census form.


47 posted on 04/01/2010 12:56:25 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: a fool in paradise

If you live in TX you put “Texian” on census form to answer the race question? ;-)


48 posted on 04/01/2010 12:57:11 PM PDT by johngalt42 ("I drank what?" -- Socrates)
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To: Knute
Sorry to hear this tragic news. I lost all my firearms in a similar accident on Lake Michigan

How ironic!!!

I lost mine the same way on the Chesapeake Bay!

49 posted on 04/01/2010 12:57:50 PM PDT by bayliving (What are YOU prepared to sacrifice in order to preserve freedom?)
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To: MsLady

It was funny until it got towards the middle/end, then he goes to far, should have watched the whole thing before I commented.


50 posted on 04/01/2010 12:58:13 PM PDT by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: pabianice
On Fox: $5,000 fine for not answering all the questions on census form.

On my form it asks for my phone number!

I will leave that one blank.

Oh, and I am answering the one about race as Human as well.

51 posted on 04/01/2010 1:00:54 PM PDT by bayliving (What are YOU prepared to sacrifice in order to preserve freedom?)
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To: bayliving

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XtuPvwBa2U


52 posted on 04/01/2010 1:03:45 PM PDT by Ueriah
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To: a fool in paradise

I have a PO box because bastards around the area steal mail. If I fill out a form at the Post office, I will get a visit anyway, so I will wait until they show up, tell them 5 people ar ein the house, and good day.


53 posted on 04/01/2010 1:14:44 PM PDT by vpintheak (Love of God, Family and Country has made me an extremist.)
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To: lwd

“You’ve received FOUR census forms? Are you in a heavily democrat district too?”

Over-counting democrats would be detrimental to democrats for voting purposes (although it might be somewhat helpful in doling out fedgov slop).

As a result of the 2000 census, there is a congress-critter for every approx 670,000 people. The estimate for 2010 is that number will change to 1:710,000.

Let’s suppose that the census over-counts a rat district by 10%. That’s 71,000 potential voters. For purposes of redistricting, there will now be about 71,000 FEWER citizens in that particular district (because they’re made up). If the focus for padding were on rat areas of the district, this means that Republican/conservative areas would now be proportionally more represented (because the fictional rats don’t actually exist). It would skew the total make-up of the district in ways that can’t be counted at the voting box. No matter how many rats the census says are in a district, they only count for election purposes if they vote.

Of course, that doesn’t take into account other forms of voting fraud. Over-counting rats on the census is not, in itself, an effective form of voting fraud.

It would serve to mask the true level of rat support in any particular district, and it would make proportionally larger the size of non-rat areas of the district. This would cause series errors for the rats in drawing new lines for re-districting: it would over-estimate their support while under-estimating the true pop size of everybody else in a district.


54 posted on 04/01/2010 1:20:32 PM PDT by ziravan (Vote your Revolution.)
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To: johngalt42

We have a certain segment of Texas wanting to make sure Tejanos are mentioned in the story of Texas’ independence (and I have no problem with that) but the Census form includes Spaniard (the only European ethnicity on it) and omits Tejano. Why is that?


55 posted on 04/01/2010 1:20:36 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: Smokin' Joe

” There is no stated requirement that the respondent be a US Citizen, nor is there a question which permits one to address that. “

Bingo!

The census preceded the federal income tax, however, I have often wondered why our cost-conscious, efficient government does not fold the census into federal tax filings where the taxfiler provides address, dependants, etc. It is clear only U.S citizens were intended by the founders to actually be counted.


56 posted on 04/01/2010 1:22:08 PM PDT by frog in a pot (Wake up America! The Socialists are winning the long war against you and your Constitution!)
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To: lwd; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows

They tell me that it is important to answer all of the questions so our government can send out an estimated $400billion to an estimated 309million people. That works out to ~$1250.00 per person.

Just cut my taxes by that much and the money will stay in my district. Problem solved.


57 posted on 04/01/2010 1:24:36 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: Smokin' Joe

Yeah, that’s right! You got it.


58 posted on 04/01/2010 1:28:04 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: a fool in paradise
how to complete a census

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XtuPvwBa2U

59 posted on 04/01/2010 1:32:56 PM PDT by Lockbox
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To: isthisnickcool

Mack Daddy?


60 posted on 04/01/2010 1:33:32 PM PDT by Rio (Don't make me come over there....)
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