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LIVE HEALTH CARE THREAD ~ SATURDAY & SUNDAY
20 March 2010

Posted on 03/20/2010 7:07:53 AM PDT by SE Mom

Edited on 03/21/2010 5:00:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

10 AM Rules Committee meeting (C-span2 LIVE all day)

11 AM Stupak press conference

12 PM Demonstration at the Capitol

3 PM Obama meets with the Democratic caucus

Sunday
2 p.m.: The House will debate for one hour the rules of debate for the reconciliation bill and the Senate bill.

3 p.m.: The House will vote to end debate and vote on the rules of the debate.

3:15 p.m.: The House will debate the reconciliation package for two hours.

5:15 p.m.: The House will vote on the reconciliation package.

5:30 p.m.: The House will debate for 15 minutes on a Republican substitute and then vote on the substitute.

6 p.m.: The House will vote on the final reconciliation package.

6:15 p.m.: If the reconciliation bill passes, the House will immediately vote on the Senate bill, without debate.


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To: onemiddleamerican

Rush will right that tomorrow along with a bunch of other stuff I would bet.


3,281 posted on 03/21/2010 1:22:28 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: teg_76

I know, he was always going to vote for it. At least now I’m very informed of how what he is saying is bunk, about the EO, I mean.


3,282 posted on 03/21/2010 1:22:30 PM PDT by jenk (REMEMBER MASSACHUSETTS!!)
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Stupac presser live now

http://interactive.foxnews.com/livestream/live.html?chanId=3


3,283 posted on 03/21/2010 1:22:41 PM PDT by Syncro (TPXIII coming soon! March 27th to April 15th 2010)
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To: Riodacat
God hears our prayers and answers our prayers in HIS WAY, in HIS TIME. If HE does, he just told you to piss off..

I believe the Bible is true.. . . and I believe God WILL answer our prayers. The unborn WILL be avenged and there WILL be liberty in our land.

Why does it say, "Wait upon the Lord?" Because we are supposed to wait upon the Lord. The Lord is control. The government rests upon HIS shoulders. He will have the final say.

3,284 posted on 03/21/2010 1:22:42 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever ( Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness)
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To: HonestConservative

It should be, but it isn’t.

I cite you the political life of one Edward M. Kennedy.


3,285 posted on 03/21/2010 1:22:43 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: arkady_renko

I think we now should demand the national parties change the names..DemocRATS should now be known as what they are...Socialist/Marxist Party. The Republicans should stand for something, draw a line in the concrete and rename themselves “The Constitution Party”.

If this bill passes I will not fly Old Glory again until we once again are a true Republic. The 4th of July won’t mean a thing anymore. Memorial Day we will remember how our veterans who gave all have been spat upon by the Republic they swore to preserve.


3,286 posted on 03/21/2010 1:22:49 PM PDT by celtic gal (Will our nation go from USA to CSA? I hope not....we will not be united then)
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To: magellan

Supposedly a reporter from the Huffington Post. No agenda there, right?


3,287 posted on 03/21/2010 1:22:55 PM PDT by Nickname (2012 - Yes You're Canned!)
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To: rodguy911

This bill cannot be repealed until January of 2013, at the very earliest.


3,288 posted on 03/21/2010 1:23:01 PM PDT by AlanD
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To: CAluvdubya
....how bad does it have to get before the American public wakes up?

I think the people did wake up and the Democrats said F^(K U.

3,289 posted on 03/21/2010 1:23:15 PM PDT by Never on my watch (Duty, Honor, Country - not Diversity)
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To: TornadoAlley3

” ... we keep fighting and hope those that wrote in Ron Paul ... “

Cuz of course any other third party candidate besides John McCain would have been more conservative s/


3,290 posted on 03/21/2010 1:23:15 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: All

Stupak will always be remembered for caving to Zero and betraying the unborn and the American people

Zero has frequently been cited as *the most* anti-life senator during his brief tenure

today is a treasonous and poisonous day in America


3,291 posted on 03/21/2010 1:23:23 PM PDT by Nobel_1 (bring on the Patriots!)
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To: Syncro

Why is the crowd yelling “we want stupac?”

They have a noose and a tree that’s why.


3,292 posted on 03/21/2010 1:23:33 PM PDT by Cheryllynn
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To: onemiddleamerican

I am so tired of hearing calls of racism — blacks love to throw it out to change the subject. Republicans already disavowed any slurs to blacks or gays this morning on the talk shows just in case there were any which was a smart move.

People are dumb that go to these events and let emotions take over or they were plants — throw a dart because I have witnessed both. You can get your message across without calling names, but it is the perfect set-up for Move-on.org types to be there and call out names.

My guess is that they walked through the group on purpose to see if some lamebrain would mutter something so they could go out and accuse everyone. The Black Caucus is despicable and if telling the truth is racist then that’s what I am. That caucus has more crooks that get by with breaking ethics rules all the time but are never called on them. Because of their race, you are supposed to bow down. They whole caucus who refused to allow Republican JC Watts to join can take it and shove it as far as I am concerned.


3,293 posted on 03/21/2010 1:23:50 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Rick Perry - TX Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 !)
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To: Dinah Lord

Anyone that beleives Stupidpak was not bought off in dollars is dreaming. We need to find out what he gets and when.


3,294 posted on 03/21/2010 1:23:50 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: onyx
What Stupak sold his soul for:

Section 1. Policy.

Following the recent passage of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act ("the Act"), it is necessary to establish an adequate enforcement mechanism to ensure that Federal funds are not used for abortion services (except in cases of rape or incest, or when the life of the woman would be endangered), consistent with a longstanding Federal statutory restriction that is commonly known as the Hyde Amendment. The purpose of this Executive Order is to establish a comprehensive, government-wide set of policies and procedures to achieve this goal and to make certain that all relevant actors--Federal officials, state officials (including insurance regulators) and health care providers--are aware of their responsibilities, new and old.

The Act maintains current Hyde Amendment restrictions governing abortion policy and extends those restrictions to the newly-created health insurance exchanges. Under the Act, longstanding Federal laws to protect conscience (such as the Church Amendment, 42 U.S.C. §300a-7, and the Weldon Amendment, Pub. L. No. 111-8, §508(d)(1) (2009)) remain intact and new protections prohibit discrimination against health care facilities and health care providers because of an unwillingness to provide, pay for, provide coverage of, or refer for abortions.

Numerous executive agencies have a role in ensuring that these restrictions are enforced, including the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), and the Office of Personnel Management (OPM).

Section 2. Strict Compliance with Prohibitions on Abortion Funding in Health Insurance Exchanges.

The Act specifically prohibits the use of tax credits and cost-sharing reduction payments to pay for abortion services (except in cases of rape or incest, or when the life of the woman would be endangered) in the health insurance exchanges that will be operational in 2014. The Act also imposes strict payment and accounting requirements to ensure that Federal funds are not used for abortion services in exchange plans (except in cases of rape or incest, or when the life of the woman would be endangered) and requires state health insurance commissioners to ensure that exchange plan funds are segregated by insurance companies in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles, OMB funds management circulars, and accounting guidance provided by the Government Accountability Office.

I hereby direct the Director of OMB and the Secretary of HHS to develop, within 180 days of the date of this Executive Order, a model set of segregation guidelines for state health insurance commissioners to use when determining whether exchange plans are complying with the Act's segregation requirements, established in Section 1303 of the Act, for enrollees receiving Federal financial assistance. The guidelines shall also offer technical information that states should follow to conduct independent regular audits of insurance companies that participate in the health insurance exchanges. In developing these model guidelines, the Director of OMB and the Secretary of HHS shall consult with executive agencies and offices that have relevant expertise in accounting principles, including, but not limited to, the Department of the Treasury, and with the Government Accountability Office. Upon completion of those model guidelines, the Secretary of HHS should promptly initiate a rulemaking to issue regulations, which will have the force of law, to interpret the Act's segregation requirements, and shall provide guidance to state health insurance commissioners on how to comply with the model guidelines.

Section 3. Community Health Center Program.

The Act establishes a new Community Health Center (CHC) Fund within HHS, which provides additional Federal funds for the community health center program. Existing law prohibits these centers from using federal funds to provide abortion services (except in cases of rape or incest, or when the life of the woman would be endangered), as a result of both the Hyde Amendment and longstanding regulations containing the Hyde language. Under the Act, the Hyde language shall apply to the authorization and appropriations of funds for Community Health Centers under section 10503 and all other relevant provisions. I hereby direct the Secretary of HHS to ensure that program administrators and recipients of Federal funds are aware of and comply with the limitations on abortion services imposed on CHCs by existing law. Such actions should include, but are not limited to, updating Grant Policy Statements that accompany CHC grants and issuing new interpretive rules.

Section 4. General Provisions.

(a) Nothing in this Executive Order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect: (i) authority granted by law or presidential directive to an agency, or the head thereof; or (ii) functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals. (b) This Executive Order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations. (c) This Executive Order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity against the United States, its departments, agencies, entities, officers, employees or agents, or any other person.

THE WHITE HOUSE

http://tinyurl.com/ygdbjfw

3,295 posted on 03/21/2010 1:24:01 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: gopwhit

Dreier is pointing out precisely what will become law.... today.


3,296 posted on 03/21/2010 1:24:07 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: CAluvdubya

Millions of people still watch the dinosaur media and have been brainwashed by the leftist education system. Republicans don’w always come through either, like failing to mention HR2520 The Patient’s Choice Act of 2009.


3,297 posted on 03/21/2010 1:24:10 PM PDT by pulaskibush (Thou shalt tax/steal from Peter to help Paul/Pablo is not in the Bible!)
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To: AlanD

It can be defunded starting January 2011.


3,298 posted on 03/21/2010 1:24:17 PM PDT by Tuxedo (Sheesh....)
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To: redshawk

Then you better know better.

I foresaw this months ago. The Obamunists HAD to force this thru. It was a done deal long ago. C’mon — I just KNOW how the Liberofascists and Progressives think and act. They are pushing the nation past the brink — all to achieve perpetual power and control. they are Marxists — what did YOU expect?


3,299 posted on 03/21/2010 1:24:27 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: celtic gal

Right or fly our flag upside down..


3,300 posted on 03/21/2010 1:24:29 PM PDT by Sprite518
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