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Never, ever, trust a Democrat.

To be reversed at a later date. And, he knows it.

May they all burn in Hell!!

Can’t do it, if the Senate bill is not passed word for word, it has to go back to the Senate. It cannot go to the President unless NO CHANGES ARE MADE.

You are right.. Stupak will fold..

This is likely to cause dissent among the Dems:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2475066/posts?page=1

There is no confirmation of this anywhere.

Why the heck would Stupak agree for a vote AFTER the Senate bill? Pelosi could just get the Senate bill passed, then not allow a vote on the Stupak provision. The pro-lifers would be played.

They gain the Stupak 12 but lose 40 pro abortion votes if I understand this correctly.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2475136/posts

How will this affect the count ?

Will the so-called pro-choice people now switch to “no” votes ?

All getting a bit confusing, pretty pitiful when the party with a clear majority has to resort to tricks and doublespeak to get something passed by its own members.

Tell Stupak the GOP will vote present on his sidecar. There will never be 216 Dem votes to pass it. Let Stupak make his decision based on that.

Am I being a little too optimistic in hoping that I hear the sounds of a little 'rat'ty cat-fight starting up?

His amendment will lose, then I guess he votes for healthcare anyway or the other dems will probably pass it anyway.

Glad he opposes federal funding of abortion, but please remember he is another left wing fool who otherwise totally supports the health care disaster.

So everything Stupek just said on Greta live was a lie...

Somehow I don’t think this guy Stupek is STUPID. He is prolife all the way and isn’t going to be threatened, bribed, or coerced in any manner.

Ballgame?

Where is RINO Romney
as the Dems push through ObamaCARE?

Answer: The RINO coward is hiding, sending out his saboteurs
against Gov. Palin and all conservative GOP stars again,
selling his ghostwritten book, helping Gore push the fraud of climate change,
and attacking the "tea party".

Mass. State Treasurer Timothy P. Cahill (I): RomneyCARE
is bankrupting Massachusetts and will do the same nationally.

"Romney admitted ... that about half of the real costs of "extending
coverage to the uninsured... is covered by federal tax dollars.

Mr. Romney's RomneyCARE is doing what entitlements do: crowding
out private insurers, compounding the cost explosion, walking the state toward rationing.

From CATO (the whole article is worthwhile): "Of the 133,000 people who have signed up for insurance since the plan was
implemented, slightly more than half have received totally free coverage."

"Health Care Speechwriter for Edwards, Obama & Clinton Now Without Health Insurance"
I'm a critic because what Washington is talking about doing
has made health insurance unaffordable in Massachusetts.

"Small businesses bridle at health insurance hikes (Romneycare strangles Mass. businesses)
some really bad news from Blue Cross-Blue Shield: His company's health insurance rates are going up 47 percent in January."

" Rationing medicine has already begun
… government-
run health care has introduced rationing and waiting lists and cost the lives of the people under its provisions."

"DEATH PANELS OPEN FOR BUSINESS IN MASSACHUSETTS"

"President Obama's newly confirmed regulatory czar defended the
possibility of removing organs from terminally ill patients without their permission."

"You can't reap these savings without limiting patients' choices in some way," said Paul Levy, CEO of Beth Israel Deaconess."

"State plan may place limits on patients' hospital options( Mass. RomneyCare )"

"Romney Visits Nebraska, Talks Health Care [where he defends Romneycare] "

"Paying the Health Tax in Massachusetts [Romneycare]
Unless we ponied up for a pricier policy we
neither need nor want-or enrolled in a government-sponsored insurance plan-we
would have to pay $1,000 each year to the state.
How did we become outlaws?"

The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood."
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006."

A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State's 'Grand Experiment' Fails [RomneyCare]

Health care in Massachusetts: a warning for America [Romney brings Mass. to its knees]
The Bay State's mandatory insurance law is raising costs, limiting access, and lowering care. "

"'Severe' doc shortage seen hiking wait time
"The shortage is getting more severe""

"Health costs to rise again.( RomneyCare )
The state's major health insurers plan to raise premiums by about 10 percent next year"

"Nation's ill-advised to follow Mass. plan [Health plan a failure]
September 17, 2009 The canary is dead."

"Bay State Insurance Premiums Highest in Country - Boston Globe August 22, 2009"

"Massachusetts: the laboratory for ObamaCare"

"Massachusetts' Obama-like reforms increase health costs, wait times [RomneyCare]
Premiums are growing 21 to 46 percent faster than the national average"

"Mass. Pushes Rationing to Control Universal Healthcare Costs (RomneyCare)"

"1,000 cancer patients 'refused treatment'"

"Massachusetts Universal Healthcare System Breaking Down Already"

"Hospital patients 'left in agony'"

"Mr. Romney should have known better before signing on to this not-so-grand experiment, especially since the state's "free market" reforms that he boasts about have proven to be irrelevant when not fictional.
Only 21,000 people have used the "connector" that was supposed to link individuals to private insurers."

A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State's 'Grand Experiment' Fails [RomneyCare]
Even though the Bay State commenced its program with a far smaller percentage of uninsured residents than exists nationwide,
"RomneyCare" is threatening to bankrupt the state."

"Dem Congresswoman Admits Obama Health Care Plan Will Destroy Private Health Insurance Industry"

"Romney's mistreatments a sick man,"

>> “...should support rolling back women’s reproductive rights,”

No one’s taking away their right to get pregnant - we just don’t want the lil’ humans to be butchered to death after the decision was made to create them.

Is Stupak dumb enough to fall for this garbage? He’d have better luck responding to one of those bank account emails from some guy in Nigeria.

Can't be done--they have to vote on the Senate bill as written---or "deem" it to be so--

Forcing the Senate to vote--and everything is up in the air again.

After the fake passage of this monstrosity, the Stupak language will be removed. They’ve played this game with this same project and same process already in this Congress. Thanks LdSentinal. G’night again, for sure this time.

Where is RINO Romney as the Dems push through ObamaCARE?

Where is RINO Romney
as the Dems push through ObamaCARE?