For reference:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2469956/posts
As a Catholic I have often been perturbed by the wide swaths of my Church that seem to endorse the “Social Justice Gospel”. And at times it does make you question whether you should leave. Ultimately I concluded that all Churches are human organizations run by men, which have human failings and fall short of the ideal. No Church is perfect since they are all run by men. Better to stick in there and try to make yours the best Church it can be.
I think Beck got it right and this author has it wrong, especially since the words do not have the same meaning that the author attributes to them. Social justice is Marxist language and always has been.
Uh, probably not, you fellow traveler.
“Social justice” does not appear anywhere in the Bible.
So what happy little meaning do these churches derive from it that couldn’t be better explained by the following:
“Follow the Ten Commandments”
See NCC, National Council of Churches.
If you go to Mt Rushmore, you will learn that our country was established for “life, liberty and social justice”. I kid you not.....................
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Beck’s own religion practices “social justice”
SLC harbors and sends out illegal alien mormons to knock on doors as missionaries KNOWING that they are illegal aliens...
Big time “social justice”
The social justice churches are simply the apostate church of the eschaton.
If the church you’re attending doesn’t preach the doctrine of sin and its punishment, and the exclusivity of Christ’s sacrificial substituional atonement,
run for the exit...
no matter how good their youth programs are :).
2 Thessalonians 3:10 (New International Version)
10 For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “If a man will not work, he shall not eat.”
As he says, and as I’ve been saying, it depends what you mean by “social justice.” If you take the words in their proper sense, then it’s a good thing. If you take the words as they are twisted by the Orwellian propagandists of the left, then it’s a bad thing.
In some ways, I think it’s better to quietly suggest the bishops that they need to rethink their propensity to support “social justice” as imposed by government using tax funds. Charity should be voluntary: giving of money and of services. Charity should not be forced.
There are many problems with doing it through the government. First, it is forced. Second, it is highly inefficient. Third, it is easily corrupted by the leftists and their culture of death.
If you cough up $100 in taxes, probably more than 95% of it goes to pay government bureaucrats and building maintenance. And a good part of the rest is used to promote abortion or to break up families and encourage single motherhood.
If you donate $100 to the United Way, probably $90 goes into their pockets and half of the rest is spent on evil purposes.
If you donate $100 to the Salvation Army, most of it will actually be used to help people.
If you give to your church, most of it will be used to help people. If you help out through your church or your local food pantry, all of it will go toward helping people.
Do the bishops really want to build government bigger and bigger, until they take over all the formerly Catholic hospitals because no one has any money left to support them? Then these formerly Catholic hospitals become abortion centers and death clinics?
If Obamacare passes in any form, a ton of money will be taken away from ALL of the private charities and churches, and be given to the government, which will use if for mostly evil purposes.
I think the term "seeking equality" is code for socialism.
The goal of churches should be to spread the gospel of Christ, not wealth redistribution or "equality" in hiring practices.
I think people started doing that, from the Protestant denominations, years ago. That is why they are disappearing in our country. We Catholics who disagree just suck it up, go to Mass, take Communion and ignore it. Find a Mass with a short to non-existent homily. Oh, and refuse to contribute money to any Catholic charity that is pitching this BS. My tipping point: a “green Mass.” As if. Left, went to a later Mass in Spanish. Respectful but unpleasant note to the priest about why I go to Mass, and how it doesn’t have anything to do with dubious scientific assertions.
Beck is right.
If your church is teaching that you should deal compassionately with your neighbor, give from your own pocket to help people in need who cross your path, bless others with what God has blessed you with, then you’re probably in a good church.
If they are teaching you that government should do all those things, you are probably in an apostate church.
If your church is teaching you that we should love and welcome the sinner, then you’re in a perfectly orthodox church. If they are putting unrepentant homosexuals into positions of leadership, get yourself and your family out of there post haste.
“Social justice” usually refers to the notion that it is somehow “unjust” that someone who works gets paid and someone who doesn’t work, doesn’t.
There is a difference between leaving a church, and leaving the faith. A church is a building, a group of people who worship together. If the values of an invidiual church depart from that of scripture, it is likely worth finding another church.
In most cases, “social justice” is a euphemism for socialism ... and it is as corrupting within the church as is the “prosperity gospel”. “Social justice” churches tend to preach as if Christ was a community organizer, a peacenik, a groovy guy who wore robes and sandals, had long flowy hair, and preached free love. It is a distortion of the gospel for political ends.
SnakeDoc
Great thread. Thanks to every poster. HOORAY Glenn Beck!
While I agree with Beck about leaving churches that preach social justice, I also strongly urge them to leave any group that doesn’t teach historic Christian Trinitarianism.
They aren’t really Christian.
Learn the lesson of Joseph and the Hebrews. Joseph helped Pharaoh plunder the people to help the people through a crisis, to take their property, to move them into cities, and to make them serfs, paying Pharaoh to take care of them, and Joseph’s great grandchildren became Pharaoh’s slaves. That kind of social justice will turn us into slaves too. The principles of good government are embodied in the ten commandments and the golden rule, beginning with thou shall not use government to steal from others, as you would not have others stealing from you.
Thanks for not keeping this confined to the “religion” forums.
I don’t like to respond there, because it feels like trolling.
Here, these socialist churches can be held in the light and viewed for their actions.