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4 Supreme Court Cases define "natural born citizen"
The Post Mail ^ | 10/18/2009 | John Charlton

Posted on 03/14/2010 12:04:10 PM PDT by etraveler13

4 Cases have been decided by the Supreme Court of the United States that define the status of Natural Born Citizen.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; eligibility; fraud; ineligible; lawsuit; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; qualification; ruling; scotus; usurper
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To: MileHi

Here is a stretch...you can google Obama Sr divorce papers. It comes up on the first page.
FYI, divorces can happen by publication, and many happen if the father cannot be found....


141 posted on 03/14/2010 6:14:25 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: Tex-Con-Man

See, we call em “After-Birthers”...LOL


142 posted on 03/14/2010 6:16:19 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: El Gato

The worst thing in court or law is some fool thinking that non-governing citations make law. 8 USC 1401 is the governing law. Period.


143 posted on 03/14/2010 6:26:45 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Prezdet Obama is what you get when you let the O.J. jury select a president !)
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To: etraveler13

bump


144 posted on 03/14/2010 6:29:35 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Thanks for the invitation but JimRob made his decision clear.

What do you mean?

145 posted on 03/14/2010 6:41:30 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: votemout

IMO (just from reading about this obsessively since summer 2008) is that once the tide of public opinion really turns even more against him, those who know will start speaking up and judges will find their respective anatomies.


146 posted on 03/14/2010 6:42:40 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Uncle Chip

What are all of these about, James???? Don’t you like the words of the Supreme Court on the matter??? You have been asking for them for weeks now and here they are. Take some time with them — let them soak into your consciousness. Quit running away from the truth —


Those lawsuits are/were all about whether Barack Hussein Obama II is eligible to serve as the 44th President of the United States or not.

I like the words of the U.S. Supreme Court just fine. I don’t always agree with every decision that they make, but I respect every decision that they issue as the law of the land.

There have been eight different Obama eligibility cases that have been presented for Justices’ conferences at the US Supreme Court. They are among those on the list that I posted. And that’s the truth! ;-)
(1) “Berg v. Obama et al”
(2) “Beverly v. FEC”
(3) “Craig v. US”
(4) “Donofrio v Wells”
(5) “Herbert v. Obama et al”
(6) “Lightfoot v. Bowen”
(6) “Schneller v. Cortes”
(7) “Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz”

It would probably be more effective if the current Justices of the Supreme Court (particularly the five conservatives) took some time with those words that you reference and if THEY let them “soak in,” don’t you think?
I haven’t read the legal briefs in the eight cases that have already reached the Supreme Court but I would imagine that the Justices have read those words and seen reference to those 4 cases that define “natural born citizen” in the briefs submitted by plaintiffs seeking the ouster of Obama from the White House as ineligible. Thus far, the Justices appear to not have been as moved by those words as you are.


147 posted on 03/14/2010 6:48:38 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

James appears game.


Sorry, I’ve been gone for a while. I was busy watching a [basketball] game.


148 posted on 03/14/2010 6:50:40 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: etraveler13
In Wong Kim Ark: ... the majority opinion coined a new definition for “native citizen”, as anyone who was born in the U.S.A., ... but it did not extend the meaning of the term “natural born citizen.”

The quote I gave from the majority opinion did refer to a "natural-born subject" in England. Since it was also making the point that this application to children of aliens extended through hundreds of years of common law to our own law, it is clear that the majority opinion was indeed encompassing "natural born citizens" with this definition.

Making this even more clear is the fact that the (2-justice) minority opinion specifically rejected the majority definition of "natural born citizen".

149 posted on 03/14/2010 6:52:41 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: jamese777
Justices have read those words and seen reference to those 4 cases that define “natural born citizen” in the briefs submitted by plaintiffs seeking the ouster of Obama from the White House as ineligible

With that logic every woman should need a SCOTUS decision before she can have an abortion.

150 posted on 03/14/2010 6:52:46 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: etraveler13

Thank you for posting John Charlton’s fine article: 4 Supreme Court Cases define “natural born citizen.”

“I say, that in order be be of the country, it is NECESSARY that a person be born of a FATHER who is a CITIZEN, for if he is born there of a STRANGER, it will be ONLY the PLACE of his birth, and NOT HIS COUNTRY” ... Vattel

(Emphases mine)

STE=Q


151 posted on 03/14/2010 6:55:07 PM PDT by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: etraveler13; dools007
The SOS (Secretary of State) for each state took the statements from the DNC, and DID NOT vet independently.

If they had, the Chicago thugs cleverly would have whipped out the RACE CARD, immediately!!!

152 posted on 03/14/2010 6:57:53 PM PDT by danamco
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Ah — I missed you there, James. Trials are trials and opinions are opinions. Do you disagree with etraveler’s take? Did the four justices, or did they not, offer opinions that would disagree with Obama’s alleged eligability?


I agree with you completely. Trials are indeed trials and opinions are most definitely opinions.
No, I do not disagree with etraveller’s take.
Four justices did indeed offer opinions that would disagree with Obama’s alleged eligiblity. However at the current US Supreme Court, four justices does not a decision make, it takes five, like the current five Justice conservative majority: Alito, Kennedy, Roberts, Scalia and Thomas.
What has surprised me is that the Supreme Court operates under the tradition of “the rule of four” when granting Writs of Certiorari (agreeing to hear a case before the full court). With five conservtives on the bench, I wonder why no Obama eligibility case has made it to a hearing before the full Court by being granted a Writ of Certiorari since it only takes four of the Justices to agree to hear a case.


153 posted on 03/14/2010 6:59:12 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: Las Vegas Ron

With that logic every woman should need a SCOTUS decision before she can have an abortion.


Huh?


154 posted on 03/14/2010 7:00:21 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777
Decisions have been made regarding what defines NBC, you posted it hasn't been addressed specifically for bammie.

You don't need a new decision for every circumstance.

155 posted on 03/14/2010 7:04:39 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: MileHi

Wow! I never knew divorce papers proved paternity!


The name “Barack Hussein Obama” is listed as father on the Hawaii Certification of Live Birth and in the birth announcements that appeared in both local Honolulu newspapers on August 13 and 14, 1961.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser0000.gif

http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/ObamaBirthStarBulletin.jpg


156 posted on 03/14/2010 7:06:12 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

Whoa, sorry, I had you mixed up with some one else,


157 posted on 03/14/2010 7:07:32 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: little jeremiah

In the end the dems will turn him out. Ala Julius Cesaer.


158 posted on 03/14/2010 7:09:53 PM PDT by votemout
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Decisions have been made regarding what defines NBC, you posted it hasn’t been addressed specifically for bammie.
You don’t need a new decision for every circumstance.


A few questions come to mind:
Then why is Obama currently the president? Why did the Republicans invite him to their winter congressional retreat in his role as president? Why did Vice President Cheney certify Obama’s Electoral votes? Why did Chief Justice Roberts swear him in? Why hasn’t a bill of impeachment even been proposed by those in Congress who oppose Obama? Why has the Supreme Court refused to address the issue. I’m just askin’


159 posted on 03/14/2010 7:12:31 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777; etraveler13

And YOUR point is???


160 posted on 03/14/2010 7:16:59 PM PDT by danamco
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