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Study Peels Back More of the Magnetic Sun
ScienceNOW ^ | March 12, 2010 | Phil Berardelli

Posted on 03/12/2010 11:45:54 PM PST by neverdem

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Turmoil. Magnetism produces much of the sun's surface phenomena, such as these sunspots, seen in ultraviolet light.
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Researchers have discovered that one of the mysterious forces that sweep the sun's surface shows an unexpectedly strong connection with the number of sunspots, magnetic disturbances that can affect Earth's weather and telecommunications. The findings should improve predictions of the sun's dynamics and might even help scientists develop better climate models.

Along with heat and light, the sun emits x-rays and magnetically charged particles that can endanger astronauts, fry circuits aboard satellites orbiting Earth, and overload electric power lines on the ground. Because of those potential threats, for several decades scientists have been examining the sun's magnetic behavior, particularly what drives its 11-year sunspot cycle, which at its peak generates dozens of the magnetic disturbances a day and can give rise to gigantic storms, some of which sweep past Earth.

One curious aspect of the solar cycle is meridional flow, which acts like a conveyor belt carrying magnetism to the sun's poles. Scientists haven't been able to model it accurately or determine how it might be connected to the sunspot cycle.

Solar scientists David Hathaway of NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama, and Lisa Rightmire of the University of Memphis in Tennessee set out to determine how meridional flow correlates with variations in the sunspot cycle. Using data collected by the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO), a spacecraft launched jointly by NASA and the European Space Agency, the two scientists tracked the motion of small zones of magnetism on the sun's surface carried poleward by meridional flow. They used SOHO data collected every 8 hours from nearly all of the most recent sunspot cycle, which ended in December 2009. (The data here went until June 2009.)

Those observations revealed that as the number of sunspots declined, the meridional flow did the opposite. Its average speed increased from about 30 kilometers per hour at the peak of the solar cycle, in 2000 and 2001, to over 47 km per hour in 2008 and 2009, after the solar cycle should have ended but was still lingering. Hathaway and Rightmire report their findings in today's issue of Science.

But knowing that the meridional flow correlates with the number of sunspots—and may even be driving them—doesn't solve every mystery here. For example, this solar cycle lasted longer than normal, and the meridional flow sped up unexpectedly toward the end—why this happened remains a "big unknown," says Hathaway. Studying the flow in earlier sunspot cycles might help us understand that, although those data are much less detailed than those from SOHO.

"We're getting information that can test our ideas about how the sunspot cycle works," says solar physicist Neil Sheeley of the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, D.C.

The findings should also help climate scientists refine their long-term models, says solar physicist Philip Judge of the NationalCenter for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado. Although our understanding of meridional flow remains "crude," he says, the study improves the ability to measure it, and this could help refine the sun's influence on long-term climate models. That's important, Judge says, because the flow is connected to the solar cycle, and the cycle is helping to drive shifts in climate.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Testing
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; globalwarming; gps; ironsun; magneticfield; magnetism; oliverkmanuel; olivermanuel; poleshift; soho; solarcycle; stringtheory; sunspots

1 posted on 03/12/2010 11:45:54 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
I'm not sure why they are wasting time studying this stuff. Every “greenie” knows it's man caused greenhouse gas emissions that is responsible for everything, and that the “evil Republicans” are at fault.
2 posted on 03/13/2010 12:04:06 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 393)
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To: neverdem

So if current understanding is non-exisitent and this model will be crude.....then I guess the current climate models are based on guesses?

I wager a month’s salary that the current guesses don’t reduce warming.


3 posted on 03/13/2010 12:21:53 AM PST by The Raven
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To: neverdem

bump


4 posted on 03/13/2010 12:26:20 AM PST by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: neverdem

We need to develop better climate models?

You mean they want to change the way we live but we still need to develop better climate models??


5 posted on 03/13/2010 1:10:50 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Next.)
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To: The Raven

I read something a few years ago that said current MGW computer models had to start with a warmed Earth, and work backward using a lot of fudge factors.

If I understand the work of Edward Lorenz correctly, the only way for a computer model to be accurate beyond a few days would be for the model to know the exact energy vector of every molecule of everything everywhere.


6 posted on 03/13/2010 2:59:16 AM PST by wolfpat (Moderate=Clueless)
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To: wolfpat

>> model to know the exact energy vector of every molecule of everything everywhere.

The Democrats have a bill in Congress to control every molecule of everything everywhere.


7 posted on 03/13/2010 3:33:56 AM PST by The Raven
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To: The Raven

I was wondering when the democRAT Congress would get around to repealing the laws of nature.


8 posted on 03/13/2010 4:27:53 AM PST by wolfpat (Moderate=Clueless)
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To: neverdem; Fractal Trader; tubebender; marvlus; Genesis defender; markomalley; Carlucci; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

9 posted on 03/13/2010 5:34:17 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Warmists as "traffic light" apocalyptics: "Greens too yellow to admit they're really Reds."-Monckton)
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To: wolfpat
Still wouldn't help.

Two reasons: Quantum mechanics and dynamical instability.

Quantum mechanics means you CANNOT know the position and momentum (for our purposes, this = velocity) of a particle to infinite precision ('exactly') at the same time.

Dynamical instability ("chaos") means that even tiny differences in the initial condition of a chaotic system means even a small difference in the initial conditions will have hugh and series, unpredictable effects on the later course of the system over time.

Or, as I found elsewhere on the web: (obscenity warning)

Cheers!

10 posted on 03/13/2010 5:56:30 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: The Raven
The Democrats have a bill in Congress to control every molecule of everything everywhere.

And McCain and the other Rinos, in the spirit of compromise, will reach across the aisle and add to the scientific consensus that supports the law.
11 posted on 03/13/2010 6:43:47 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: Swordmaker; Fred Nerks; 75thOVI; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; ...
Thanks neverdem.
 
Catastrophism
 
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12 posted on 03/13/2010 10:14:02 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: grey_whiskers

See, that’s why Schroedinger used a cat instead.


13 posted on 03/13/2010 10:14:40 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Freedom is Priceless.)
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