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ID Card for Workers Is at Center of Immigration Plan
WallStreetJournal.com ^ | 3-9-2010 | Laura Meckler

Posted on 03/09/2010 2:53:08 AM PST by raybbr

Lawmakers working to craft a new comprehensive immigration bill have settled on a way to prevent employers from hiring illegal immigrants: a national biometric identification card all American workers would eventually be required to obtain.

Under the potentially controversial plan still taking shape in the Senate, all legal U.S. workers, including citizens and immigrants, would be issued an ID card with embedded information, such as fingerprints, to tie the card to the worker.

The ID card plan is one of several steps advocates of an immigration overhaul are taking to address concerns that have defeated similar bills in the past.

The uphill effort to pass a bill is being led by Sens. Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.) and Lindsey Graham (R., S.C.), who plan to meet with President Barack Obama as soon as this week to update him on their work. An administration official said the White House had no position on the biometric card.

"It's the nub of solving the immigration dilemma politically speaking," Mr. Schumer said in an interview. The card, he said, would directly answer concerns that after legislation is signed, another wave of illegal immigrants would arrive. "If you say they can't get a job when they come here, you'll stop it."

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1 posted on 03/09/2010 2:53:08 AM PST by raybbr
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To: raybbr

Personally, I like a national ID card that will allow people to work and to vote. No card? No work, no vote.

I understand that it has echoes of a Police State and Revelation, but I think this still would be a good thing.


2 posted on 03/09/2010 3:00:45 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We're all heading toward red revolution - we just disagree on which type of Red we want.)
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To: raybbr

More backdoor takeover attempt


3 posted on 03/09/2010 3:01:15 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: raybbr

I have NO problem with non citizens having to have an ID card...but a national ID card is BS __ Geez why not just tattoo numbers on us..oh wait...”Papers please”


4 posted on 03/09/2010 3:02:05 AM PST by conservativehusker (Ben Nelson makes me ashamed to be a Nebraskan. (Kinda like Bill Calahan once did))
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To: ClearCase_guy

As much as it might make sense...it won’t pass. This immigration plan discussion is mostly bogus and will go nowhere.


5 posted on 03/09/2010 3:03:21 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: raybbr

It doesn’t stop illegal immigrants from working, as they can still be paid under the table in cash. Meanwhile, CITIZENS of the U.S. have yet another burden placed on them by the Federal Government.


6 posted on 03/09/2010 3:03:51 AM PST by Nova442 ("Cry Havoc and let slip the Dogs of War.")
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To: raybbr

“To receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the Beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the Beast, for it is man’s number. His number is 666....” - Revelations 13: 16-18


7 posted on 03/09/2010 3:04:10 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: raybbr

One of the rare times I agree with the ACLU. Instead of cutting off welfare and free medical for illegals, and defending our borders we are going to hassle the honest citizens, AGAIN. Honest citizens do this, do that, pay, pay, pay(this ID card won’t be free)Illegals; don’t you worry your pretty little heads about anything. Just sit over there with your hand out and we will give you money.
The bottom lone, this will degenerate into a “let’s see your ID”(scan the info into handy portable devices) for every aspect of our lives.
No thanks.


8 posted on 03/09/2010 3:05:53 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: raybbr
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

-- Benjamin Franklin


9 posted on 03/09/2010 3:06:17 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The Republican Party is to conservatism what Twinkies are to nutrition.)
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To: pepsionice

I agree.


10 posted on 03/09/2010 3:06:21 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We're all heading toward red revolution - we just disagree on which type of Red we want.)
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To: raybbr

I guess this would take place, just after granting amnesty to
30 million illegal new Obots.
It will double as a voter registration card, no doubt.


11 posted on 03/09/2010 3:06:34 AM PST by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: raybbr

There’s a word that needs to be revived in American political parlance, and this travesty is another perfect example of why.

That word?

Un-American.


12 posted on 03/09/2010 3:08:41 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The Republican Party is to conservatism what Twinkies are to nutrition.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
We already have standards for mandatory identification for employment, but those are ignored by those who want to hire slave labor illegal workers. How will a nationally mandated biometric ID help curb illegals from getting a job? It won't. It's just going to give Uncle Sugar more power over us. You might be OK with that, but I'm sure the hell not. Enforce the laws already on the books!
13 posted on 03/09/2010 3:20:56 AM PST by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: raybbr

An so it begins.

Your papers please.

The perfect excuse for the communists and Marxists to finally control the once free Americans.


14 posted on 03/09/2010 3:23:39 AM PST by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: raybbr
Horse pucky. The whole immigration issue is about the left doing the same thing to the USA that their euro-socialist kin did to Europe by introducing millions of foreign dependents on the welfare system, creating enough stress to collapse the system while creating social chaos because non of them will acclimate to European society.

That's all this is about, period.

15 posted on 03/09/2010 3:32:14 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

It is still an amnesty for illegal aliens. The German 1960’s experiment with “guest workers” was an unmitigated failure. See this report from the Center for Immigration Studies: http://cis.org/TemporaryWorkers-Overstays

Additionally, read Kris Kobach’s op-ed in the NYPost May 2007:http://www.nypost.com/f/print/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/rx_for_breakdown_8saK9AesgW4OAnOKYMK7KM

Besides, we already have visa programs in place for those who want to work here.


16 posted on 03/09/2010 3:38:29 AM PST by Lobbyist (capitalist)
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To: ClearCase_guy

It’ll be a cold day in hell before these “ID cards” are required to vote, unless they’re handing them out at every cemetary within most city limits.


17 posted on 03/09/2010 4:03:56 AM PST by RU88 (Bow to no man)
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To: raybbr

The idea is that if they force all Americans to carry “biometric” ID cards, then they can legalize all the illegal aliens and nobody will worry anymore about more illegal aliens coming in since they won’t have the “biometric” ID cards. So they won’t come. Or if they do, they will of course be immediately deported, just like we immediately deport illegals now — just ask Obama’s aunty.

And since they don’t have the “biometric” ID card and are known illegals, they won’t be allowed to live in subsidized public housing — just ask Obama’s aunty.

The political class seems to get stupider every day. We, legal citizens, will have to walk around with ID cards that the government can use to track our every movement while they give away benefits to illegal aliens like they do today — just ask Obama’s aunty.

And that stupidest of jackasses, Linseed Graham, is leading the charge.


18 posted on 03/09/2010 4:05:05 AM PST by Da Mav
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To: raybbr
Wait until people start going to get their id, only to find out some illegal is already using it!

You think it is hard now to fix misuse of S.S. numbers wait until the fraud starts here.

19 posted on 03/09/2010 4:09:53 AM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: raybbr

Could I use the short form of my birth certificate to get one?


20 posted on 03/09/2010 4:32:54 AM PST by Lockbox
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