60+ Lawmakers 7 States Tell Obama; if you want on 2012 ballot, RELEASE THE RECORDS!

Oil Immigration.org ^ | March 2, 2010 | David Crockett

[Red Steel]

3 more states, South Carolina, New Hampshire and Indiana have joined Arizona in proposing bills requiring proof of Article II Eligibility for POTUS. Does this mean this is no longer a crazy, fringe conspiracy theory movement?

Snippets from Washington Independent; ‘Birther’ Conspiracy Roils GOP Campaigns - State Legislators, Party Strategists Keep Anti-Obama Rumors Alive -

South Carolina-Bill 3389, freshman state Rep. Tommy Stringer has introduced legislation that would amend the state’s election code to make sure that “a candidate for President or Vice President of the United States may not have his name printed on a ballot in this State unless there is conclusive evidence that he is a natural born citizen of the United States.”…

New Hampshire’s House bill 1245, mandates that “the names of the candidates shall not appear on the ballot unless the secretary of state has received certified copies of the birth certificates of the candidates.”

Indiana’s Senate bill 82, grapples with the legal standing issue that has vexed “birthers,” granting the right to challenge qualifications to “a registered voter of the jurisdiction conducting the election.”… …more from the Obot’s HERE.

Arizona House bill 2441, titled: presidential candidates; proof of qualifications

…Within ten days after submittal of the names of the candidates, the national political party committee shall submit an affidavit of the presidential candidate in which the presidential candidate states the candidate’s citizenship and age and shall append to the affidavit documents that prove that the candidate is a natural born citizen, prove the candidate’s age and prove that the candidate meets the residency requirements for President of the United States as prescribed in article II, section 1, Constitution of the United States… …view entire Arizona bill HERE.

Other states are also joining the war to defend our constitution. According to the National Conference of State Legislatures; New York, Virginia, Georgia and other states are also working on the same type legislation. …more HERE.

Also, let us not forget the federal bill proposed by Bill Posey of Florida; H.R.1503 - Presidential Eligibility Act -

To amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to require the principal campaign committee of a candidate for election to the office of President to include with the committee’s statement of organization a copy of the candidate’s birth certificate, together with such other documentation as may be necessary to establish that the candidate meets the qualifications for eligibility to the Office of President under the Constitution…

…Congress finds that under - the Constitution of the United States, in order to be eligible to serve as President, an individual must be a natural born citizen of the United States who has attained the age of 35 years and has been a resident within the United States for at least 14 years. …view entire bill HERE.

[Menehune56]

Voter ID. Proof of eligibility. Two racist ideas whose time has come.

Both are urgently needed but resisted at all costs by the entrenched leftists. Even Texas and Georgia have been unable to pass a voter ID bill yet. Wonder why!

[null and void]

There are 57 states in the Organization of Islamic Countries.

'nuff said?

[null and void]

Obama “knoweth that he hath but a short time.”

"the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath"

[tutstar]

bump

[EDINVA]

I might add to the requirement that they produce parents’ birth certificates to prove that they also were born in US.

[Menehune56]

I might add to the requirement that they produce parents’ birth certificates to prove that they also were born in US.

An excellent point although I believe the parents just have to be citizens for their offspring to be natural born so proof of parental citizenship is what the requirement should be.

[Kenny Bunk]

This a great idea, but only in its beginning stages. We do need the follow-through. And we need to keep an eye what exactly is in the bills that get passed.

E.G., Up until now, all that was needed was the affirmation of the party national committee, and that of the state. Due diligence, if any, was their responsibility, with AG's pretty much rubber-stamping their application.

So, what exactly will the states noted now ask for? A Birth Certificate? Will they accept the COLB, as judges have? Will they insist on the mysterious "Long Form," reputedly hidden in a vault on Mt. Haleakala?
Most important to me: What will the test be for a "Natural Born Citizen?" IMHO, if just one state declared BHO, Jr. not to be a "Natural Born Citizen," That just might put paid to this travesty. If one state officially passes a law that says a "Natural Born Citizen?" is the offspring of two American Citizen Parents, that would also be a major step toward the unequivocal definition we need.

What worries me is that states AG's might be posturing, and then be satisfied with the "proof" that BHO, Jr. is a "Native Born Citizen." At one point, that's all he claimed on his web site, until it was pointed out that he had signed, or caused to be signed, affidavits for state ballots upon which he claimed "Natural Born Citizen." (AZ)
BTW, this great idea was introduced on FreeRepublic (and other places) DURING the election of 2008, by me and many others.

Bottom line: The States' AGs have the absolute right to know, the absolute duty to vet the candidate, and the power to keep an ineligible candidate off a state's ballot. My question: "Will they really do the whole job?"

I have asked a number of elected Republicans on both the state and federal levels, if they thought BHO, Jr. was a "Natural Born Citizen," as required by the Constitution. Not one (1) has answered directly. Uniformly, they deflect the question by saying "....he was born in Hawaii." WTH? Over.

[EDINVA]

That’s true, so they could be required either to submit parents’ birth certs or proof of citizenship (showing they were citizens when the candidate was born).

I am left a little perplexed, tho, with so many folks now having dual citizenship. I’d swear I grew up learning that to become a US citizen, one had to renounce all former allegiance.

The goal of ‘natural born’ was to have someone with absolutely NO split allegiance. So, if the parents came to US and became citizens, but retained dual citizenship (and often that is done for the kids as well), where does that leave us?

Then, too, I know a few ‘natural born’ people (very few) who obtained dual citizenship so they could get another passport for dangerous international travel.

[rxsid]

"It’s the reason why Obama is pushing so hard to get his socialized health care passed and every other communistic program he can. Obama knows he doesn’t have much time and wants his “legacy” before he’s out of office at the end of 2012."

Exactly right! It's why he's hinted that he's a one termer (at most). It's full speed ahead with their socialist/progressive agenda, at any cost. The rabid progressives in Congress see this as their golden opportunity as well, one they've been waiting for, for generations. To heck with their careers.

[rxsid]

"If a non-citizen from Nicaragua can get on multiple states’ ballots, we have a problem.

Exactly! Something many of the legislatures in these many states need to be made aware of as well.

[hennie pennie]

*** B i r f e r s A c e n d i n g !! ***

[rxsid]

"“FREE THE LONG FORM!”"

Like the idea...to which I'll add:

HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

 

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

 

It can't. Of course not. Yet, right there, on his campaign web site F.T.S., it's stated that a foreign government "governed" Barry from birth and the reason it did, was that Barry inherited that foreign citizenship by way of his foreign national father (no matter where he was born).
How, then, could he possibly be a "Natural Born Citizen" of the U.S.?
Barry Soetoro, the divided citizen at birth!

http://www.jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com

 

Furthermore:  Hawaii's Territorial Law, Chapter 57 - "VITAL STATISTICS, I", shown beginning pg 23 of 29, (the law in effect in 1961) allowed baby's born anywhere in the world to be eligible to apply for a Hawaii birth certificate based on the word of 1 relative. That is how a foreign born baby could get a HI BC on record, which in turn generates the "birth announcements" in the newspapers.

[rxsid]

"What if his father is listed as Frank Marshall Davis, then he is a Natural Born Citizen.

If that's the case, it's a pretty good consolation prize. It will destroy Obama and his make believe persona. A lie that the media could not keep him from his own destruction. Say hello to President Marshall son of a known pervert and all around communist. ;-)

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Well, not to mention the fact that he'd have to explain the altered government document that appeared on his campaign web site F.T.S. Election fraud anyone?

[rxsid]

"I’d swear I grew up learning that to become a US citizen, one had to renounce all former allegiance.

To become a Naturalized citizen, one is required to:

"To become a U.S. citizen you must take the Oath of Allegiance. The Oath includes several promises you make when you become a U.S. citizen, including promises to:

• Give up all prior allegiance to any other nation or sovereignty;
• Swear allegiance to the United States;
• Support and defend the Constitution and the laws of the United States;
and
• Serve the country when required."

http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/M-476.pdf

[rxsid]

The actual oath (from the same link as above):

"I hereby declare, on oath,
that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen;
that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law;
that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law;
that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."

[EDINVA]

Thanks for the info. So how does that square with ‘dual citizenship?’ Can an American be a ‘dual citizen’ only with countries that don’t demand single allegiance? And, how does this cover a ‘natural born’ citizen who might choose to adopt his/her grandparent’s home country?

Frankly, I think we should do away with dual citizenship. But it seems to have grown rather popular in recent decades.

[jakerobins]

Obama will merely create a crisis with the media and declare suspension of elections to quell the crisis......He will say only his “Leadership” will help America.....(Standard Rat procedure...create crisis, blame on Republicans, exploit power.....)

[shield]

Agree.....

[Dajjal]

obumpa

[jamese777]

The state of Hawaii says that their short form COLB IS the official birth certificate of the state.
http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html
Whatever the US Department of State (Secretary Hillary Rodham Clinton) accepts as official proof of birth for passport purposes is accepted by all of the federal government.