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Blame the victim: Religious leaflet claims ‘ungodly’ dressed women provoke rape
TriCities.com ^ | February 28, 2010 | By Claire Galofaro

Posted on 02/28/2010 3:17:45 PM PST by freed0misntfree

BRISTOL, Va. – Nineteen-year-old Keshia Canter handed three burgers, fries and milkshakes to a car-load of Tuesday afternoon customers at the Hi-Lo Burger’s drive-though window. A lady sitting in the backseat leaned forward, between the two men in front, and handed her a leaflet: “Women & Girls” it said across the top. “Even though nothing is showing, you’re being ungodly,” Canter recalled the woman telling her. “You make men want to be sinful.” Canter was wearing boots pulled up over jeans, a pink zebra-print shirt with a black jacket zipped up over it. She has blond hair, dark eye make-up and a little red lip ring. “I just asked if she needed any salt, pepper or ketchup,” Canter said. “I mean, how do I respond to that?” Minutes later, Canter’s mother, Pam Yates, who owns the restaurant, returned from the bank. Canter handed her “Women & Girls” and Yates started reading. “You may have been given this leaflet because of the way you are dressed,” it begins. “Have you thought about standing before the true and living God to be judged?” It continues with one essential theme: The sins of men are, in part, the fault of women, specifically women in tight-fitting clothing. Yates was annoyed. Then she got to a section on page two: “Scripture tells us that when a man looks on a woman to lust for her he has already committed adultery in his heart. If you are dressed in a way that tempts a men to do this secret (or not so secret) sin, you are a participant in the sin,” the leaflet states. “By the way, some rape victims would not have been raped if they had dressed properly. So can we really say they were innocent victims?”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: assault; burqabrigade; burqaburqa; religiouskooks; sheaskedforit
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To: freed0misntfree

The use of the word “Scripture” tells me this is from one of the fundie Christian groups. These are the type of people who have no problem pronouncing that everyone but them are going to h*ll while never realizing that it isn’t them who gets to decide that. :)


21 posted on 02/28/2010 3:38:47 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: freed0misntfree

There’s something to this... whether it’s put in a way we like or not.

We have become a sex-saturated, immodest culture and it will contribute to our downfall - and eventual judgment before God.

American have become so self-righteously secular that if the are told they are wrong about something or held to a standard that interferes with their “fun” their heads explode.


22 posted on 02/28/2010 3:45:09 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Marty62

“Some people think they have the right to tell others how to live.”

Everyone tell others how to live... every day.

It’s called “culture”.


23 posted on 02/28/2010 3:46:40 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Kieri

There are some pretty radical Christian sects out there. They tend to be harmless to outsiders.

Years ago I had a girlfriend who ended up joining a church with her parents that seemed pretty bizarre to me. They claimed to be Baptist but believed in arranged marriages, marriage outside the church was forbidden, they did the biblical foot washing thing, etc. I personally couldn’t abide with the arranged marriage thing and obviously didn’t try to stay with the girl. She did enter one of those marriages and seemed to end up pretty happy till she died a few years ago.


24 posted on 02/28/2010 3:47:20 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: chris_bdba

“These are the type of people who have no problem pronouncing that everyone but them are going to h*ll while never realizing that it isn’t them who gets to decide that. :)”

Thanks for the illogical, stereotypical, reflexively anti-christian post.

A real contribution!

What’s next, “All Jews are thieves.”???


25 posted on 02/28/2010 3:50:13 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

“You have heard that is was said to those of old, You shall not commit adultery. But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”

Jesus, in the Sermon on the Mount, Mathew chapter 5.

The basic Christian argument against the use of pornography.

Nowhere in the Bible however is a woman blamed for being raped. That is a jump.


26 posted on 02/28/2010 3:52:56 PM PST by Persevero (Satan tries to separate what God puts together and join together what God separates.)
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To: freed0misntfree
What this woman doesn't understand is that rape isn't about sex - its about power, control and dominance over the rape victim.
27 posted on 02/28/2010 3:56:04 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Zero should spend all his time playing golf & keep his Marxist, Muzzie, Homo hands off our country)
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To: freed0misntfree

I thought the media stopped reporting on Bill Clinton and John Edwards? Guess not.


28 posted on 02/28/2010 3:56:08 PM PST by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: the law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: freed0misntfree

There is nothing wrong with modesty, but the Islamic take on it is extreme.


29 posted on 02/28/2010 3:56:11 PM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

nothing but in this case the young lady was wearing a work uniform that both men and women wear


30 posted on 02/28/2010 3:57:22 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Is his from the Koran or from the Bible?

It is from the Bible, but it may well be in the Qur'an also.

31 posted on 02/28/2010 3:57:57 PM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Marty62

MIL = Mother-in-law.


32 posted on 02/28/2010 4:00:17 PM PST by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: JimRed

Does anyone know what religious group the leaflet was from?


33 posted on 02/28/2010 4:04:00 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: freed0misntfree

Eph 4:14-15 Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming. Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ.

A sign of Christian maturity is to be able to speak the truth in love. Note this requires two parts, an ability to speak the truth and doing it in love. Jesus demonstrated it perfectly when he dealt with the woman caught in adultery. He did not condemn her, but protected her from the religious goons who where trying to trap Him. He finished up by telling her to go and sin no more. Love, no condemnation, yet speaking truth - beautiful.

1 Cor 13:1 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.

Person passing out tract ==> clanging symbol. yuk.

All that being said I’d like to see modesty return to our society.


34 posted on 02/28/2010 4:12:06 PM PST by krghou
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To: proudofthesouth
What this woman doesn't understand is that rape isn't about sex - its about power, control and dominance over the rape victim.

This is a very common claim. It's so widely repeated that people assume it's a fact. But it's not a fact. It is an assertion.

The basic rationale behind it is the liberal notion that all sex is Good. Rape is Bad, therefore rape can't be sex, it must be something else.

Where exactly is it written that if the sexual instinct is expressed in a twisted and evil way it stops being sex? Or that all sex is loving and caring?

A little searching on the interwebs will provide a glimpse into how incredibly diverse sexual expression is. There are entire groups that consensually play with issues of power, domination, submission and rape. Most liberals think this is just another example of the beauty of sexual diversity.

Yet when some evil dude takes the whole dominance meme a little too literally, suddenly it stops being sex.

I don't buy it. Rape is evil sex, but there are a good many guys so twisted it's the only type of sex they can have.

35 posted on 02/28/2010 4:17:43 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Never confuse schooling with education.)
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To: freed0misntfree
Their aren't any rapes in nudist camps. So, I guess that kind of blows her thesis then doesn't it?

It's the GUY’s lack of self-control, Dimwit!!

36 posted on 02/28/2010 4:26:45 PM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY (It's the spending, Stupid!)
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To: proudofthesouth

“..rape isn’t about sex - its about power, control and dominance over the rape victim.”

Sorry, but that’s feminist BS! Of course it’s about sex; by animals who can’t develop a real relationship with a woman. If was about power and control, etc. it would be only a beating!


37 posted on 02/28/2010 4:32:41 PM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY (It's the spending, Stupid!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
That's from the Bible. However, Jesus was not saying women deserved to be raped; He was saying that mere outward adherence to the Law of Moses does not mean anything if a person's inner thoughts are sinful.

Matthew 5:

Adultery

27”You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’[e] 28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

38 posted on 02/28/2010 4:35:28 PM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: freed0misntfree
With women, sex is power. However, modern society has seen to it that regardless of how seductive their behavior (and dress), "no means no."

Those mixed signals confuse men -- or more accurately, boys -- who have only two options: believe the signals or believe the words. Since only the latter is safe, men have to ignore what their eyes are telling them. They have to ignore the biological signals that women have been using to attract sexual attention since Eve donned a fig leaf.

In other words, they have to become inured to sexual attractions.

However, the women are actually signalling that they DO want the attention, just probably not in quite so cavalier a fashion. So when men learn to ignore them, they are forced to resort to more and more brazen displays to get the attention they seek.

In our lifetime, we've gone from Laura Petrie and Barbara Billingsley to Madonna to Kim Kardashian and Britney Spears. The only thing left is to drop the laundry entirely and perform in the altogether.

No, women don't deserve to be raped just because they dress provocatively. But men don't deserve to be lied to either. If you want sexual attention, they be brave enough to accept it when it ... comes. If you don't want it, then don't dress like a bus-station hooker.

39 posted on 02/28/2010 4:38:39 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: freed0misntfree

Oh, yes, it was the apple that made Eve sin, and it was Eve that caused Adam to fall. Usual suspects.


40 posted on 02/28/2010 4:39:04 PM PST by wizr (Keep the Faith! Even when it gets tough! Nothing else will do.)
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