Posted on 02/19/2010 7:35:34 PM PST by DesertRenegade
Ryan Sorba, from the Young Americans for Freedom organization’s California chapter, was booed off the stage tonight at CPAC, for deriding CPAC’s choice to have GOProud attend CPAC, even going so far as to say he “condemns CPAC”. Not the sort of thing one would say when invited to speak at the biggest gathering of Conservatives who look to CPAC for guidance and networking.
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I don’t see your point. I only see that you are criticizing conservatives for reasons unclear.
Keep it at home.
That was then...this is now.
Have you heard? The cat is out of the bag.
Military, marriage, adoption, housing, all of it.
Your problem. Sorry. I think it pretty clear.
It won’t be up to you unless this agenda is opposed, that is the whole point! The govt will force those choices on you and you family.
You aren’t clear at all. In what way are conservatives supposed to “agree to disagree” that they currently are not?
Please explain.
I’m glad I didn’t have to scroll down farther than #8 to find someone who could put a little ‘corrective perspective’ on this incident.
I’ll get back to this thread later.
These issues are going to be the DEATH of hardheaded, take no prisoners “Conservatives”; they are loser issues for them,always WILL be, and it’s as though they WANT it that way. What, is this the last refuge of family values, keeping homosexuals OUT of the Party??? Or just out of the self-celebrating “Conservative” side of it.
This is not the usual wishy-washy idea of extending the ‘big tent’ outwards to cover populations as diverse as gays, or pro-choicers. THIS IS INSTEAD A FORMERLY DISPARAGED GROUP EXTENDING THEIR BIG TENT TO THE CONSERVATIVES, and some of them like this Ryan dude, young and inexperienced purists that they are, don’t see it.
I woulda booed him too.
Either way,this exclusionary tendency is foolish, self-defeating, and pig-headed and makes REAL conservatives look as much like the narrow minded bigots as , say, John Kerry was when he JUST COULDN’T LEAVE DICK CHENEY’S DAUGHTER ALONE DURING THEIR CAMPAIGN, but HAD TO MAKE HER A POLITICAL ISSUE. Did GOProud demand their rights to proselytize among the rank and file GOP, and teach them the homosexual agenda? What was this Ryan fellow complaining about? If these were conservative gays to begin with, what is the big friggin’ issue? Don’t trust them? Have any of these people ever actually KNOWN a homosexual in any context. (I have, I was in theater all through the 70s)I hope this thread doesn’t die. This is a pet bugaboo of mine.
Agree. Why this is an issue is beyond me.
We are (should be) at war with islamists, not homosexuals. (that being said, I am 100% against a homosexual agenda pushed in schools or the media)
On further reading at the GOProud website,i would have to agree with you 100%...
They are more progressive than conservative,why CPAC would allow them to attend is a mystery to me.
What next the communist party speaking at CPAC 2011?
Not all homosexuals are freaks. Homosexuals are not a monolithic group.
Thank you both for replying to my post.
Anybody can draw a line in the sand. Getting many people to draw it in the same place is a little harder.
I focus on 2nd Amd, 1st Amd, defense, taxes and government size & spending. The gay issue is way down on my list when I’m out to rally support for a candidate.
I guess I can live with myself, even it I’m not pure enough for the two of you.
It, sadly, reveals a lot about those running CPAC. It's disgraceful on the verge of political resurgence of the conservative movement CPAC doesn't do something is divisive.
Good point, and one of the many I tried to make in my post just above yours.
So far, even in the most liberal states, their agenda IS being stopped. It is up to the people to stop it. That’s what we are doing in my state. I personally would like to see a federal marriage amendement, but, in the meantime, we seem to be defeating their agenda one state at a time (with some exceptions). The majority of people are on our side on this issue and it is up to us to actively protect traditional marriage and family values whenever the issues arise. However, I don’t agree with painting with a broad brush and personally attacking a group of people who agree with us on many issues and are not promoting a personal agenda.
good summary of aggressive gay activism
Either you’re incredibly misinformed, and have read nothing on FR or elsewhere over the years about the piles and piles of “gay” agenda legislation and court injuctions taking away freedoms of citizens in the areas of religious expression, assocation and speech, or you’re disingenuous.
And I don’t give a rip which one.
If the “gay” agenda is fine with you, and those who oppose it are wrong, you’re part of the problem.
Where are these homosexuals who agree with “us” on many issues and are not promoting a personal agenda?
If there are many such, no one would even know anything about their personal sex lives.
And why are there very few (one or two at most, Tammy Bruce is the only one I can think of) who speak out against the radical “gay” agenda?
Silence.
Would you have the GOP put that banner front and center...as a principal issue?
How about abortion? Front and center?
While I believe we should all vote our conscience, every time, I think some fight are better relegated to the future if they don't present an immediate threat.
I believe "gay rights" and abortion belong under the 10th Amendment and are not the purview of the Federal Government. However, the Feds have nationalized abortion under Roe and essentially codified the legalization position. That is NOT a fight that will be won over the next 2-4 years.
Currently the "gay rights" issues are being fought on the 10th Amendment stage (in the State Houses)...and I wonder why the GOP or conservatives would want to nationalize them? If anything the "gay rights" movement has a far better constitutional case than the abortionists did.
That, combined with that fact that many independents in the NE and West Coast are agnostic on these issues...but react negatively to "religious zeal", why stir that hornets nest when there's no upside, no opportunity to change the status quo?
I just don't get it...there is an opportunity over the next 2-4 years to place conservative principles in the ruling seats for a generation...the seats that APPOINT AND APPROVE JUDGES...and some would carry the banner of issues at the front of the column, issues which cannot be affected in the near term, which could reduce the chances for victory in the long term.
Agree. Don't ask, don't tell works best. They need to work on the "don't tell" part and we'd be better off all the way around.
How is their agenda being stopped? Give examples.
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