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My final thought on the birther issue
Red State ^ | February 14, 2010 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 02/15/2010 2:06:27 AM PST by FTJM

A lot of you have asked if I’ve gotten any more emails. Below the fold, a compilation of emails that have come in. But above the fold, my final word.

Based on the facts, it is very clear that President Obama is our lawfully elected President and the Office of President of the United States of America requires that though we may disagree with him and oppose him, we recognize and respect his position as President — a position entrusted to him by 69,456,897 voting Americans, or 52.9% of the popular vote.

As early at 1350, the British Parliament approved statutes recognizing the rule of jus sanguinis, under which citizens may pass their citizenship by descent to their children at birth, regardless of place. Similarly, in the its first naturalization statute, Congress declared that ‘the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond the sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens.’ 1 Stat. 104 (1790) . . . . Notwithstanding the Supreme Court’s discussion in Wong Kim Ark (1898), a majority of commentators today argue that the Presidential Eligibility Clause incorporates both the common-law and English statutory principles, and that therefore, Michigan Governor George Romney, who was born to American parents outside of the United States, was eligible to seek the Presidency in 1968.

Meese, Edward, Heritage Guide to the Constitution, p. 190 (2005).

Even were the American public to fall under the belief that Barack Obama was born in a foreign country and 49 years ago his associates fabricated a narrative, a birth record, and placed birth announcements in both the Honolulu Advertiser and the Star Bulletin on August 4, 1961, to ensure that 49 years later he could become President of the United States, it is undisputed that Barack Obama’s mother is and has always been an American citizen. Therefore Barack Obama is and has always been an American citizen.

The leaps of logic and reason to arrive at such a conspiracy are unbefitting the credibility of anyone and not worthy of further discussion. Notwithstanding the same, no American should ever sanction what would amount to a judicial coup — the removal of the President of the United States after 52.9% of the American public instructed their Electoral College representatives to place their votes for him. The time to even be willing to entertain these issues from those who claim a conspiracy has long past.

A conservative movement worthy of leading this nation must be willing to cast aside those who, for whatever reason, cannot and will not be persuaded that the President is our legitimately, constitutionally elected President.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; eligibility; fraud; ineligibility; naturalborncitizen; obama; usurper
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1 posted on 02/15/2010 2:06:27 AM PST by FTJM
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To: FTJM

Erickson exposed himself as not understanding the law and the issue.


2 posted on 02/15/2010 2:07:31 AM PST by FTJM
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To: FTJM

Erickson is a “natural born” idiot.


3 posted on 02/15/2010 2:18:59 AM PST by flash2368
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To: FTJM

then it should be decided by the courts and not a bunch of websites


4 posted on 02/15/2010 2:20:47 AM PST by ari-freedom (Gong hey fat choy!)
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To: FTJM

Agree that Erickson doesn’t know the law. But I always agree with him that this issue should be dropped.


5 posted on 02/15/2010 2:24:15 AM PST by Onerom99 (I)
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To: ari-freedom

That and DNA.

Who does this guy think he is?


6 posted on 02/15/2010 2:24:24 AM PST by rambo316 (Take Back America)
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“we recognize and respect his position as President”

No, never. I don’t care where this ass was born... he is not now nor will he ever be my president. He’s a traitor that is destroying my country.


7 posted on 02/15/2010 2:27:35 AM PST by Gator113 (Obama is America's First FAILED "light skinned African American [Pres-dent] with no Negro dialect..")
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To: FTJM
“Even were the American public to fall under the belief that Barack Obama was born in a foreign country and 49 years ago his associates fabricated a narrative, a birth record, and placed birth announcements in both the Honolulu Advertiser and the Star Bulletin on August 4, 1961, to ensure that 49 years later he could become President of the United States, it is undisputed that Barack Obama’s mother is and has always been an American citizen. Therefore Barack Obama is and has always been an American citizen.”

So the next time I am asked for my birth certificate
I will only need to give a url to a newspaper clipping!
And any one wishing for their foreign born to be U.S. Citizens need only place such ads.

"The leaps of logic and reason to arrive at such a conspiracy are unbefitting the credibility of anyone and not worthy of further discussion."

Yes lets not discuss the issue, like GLOBAL WARMING it is settled!

"Notwithstanding the same, no American should ever sanction what would amount to a judicial coup — the removal of the President of the United States after 52.9% of the American public instructed their Electoral College representatives to place their votes for him. The time to even be willing to entertain these issues from those who claim a conspiracy has long past."

Yes! Popular vote and the statute of limitations on questioning actions by government authorities trumps the Constitution!

"A conservative movement worthy of leading this nation must be willing to cast aside those who, for whatever reason, cannot and will not be persuaded that the President is our legitimately, constitutionally elected President."

Yes the conservative movement worthy of leading this nation
must place a ring in it's nose and repeat after it's self appointed leaders immediately!

All who disagree should be marched off to the Gulags.

Americans just love to be told what to think by these self appointed Masters of thought!

8 posted on 02/15/2010 2:32:10 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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"A conservative movement worthy of leading this nation must be willing to cast aside those who, for whatever reason, cannot and will not be persuaded that the President is our legitimately, constitutionally elected President."

So Erickson, you want to toss a whole lot of people out of the conservative movement. Sorry, Erickson, you don't get to decide. Banning a topic from your website is one thing. Acting like a defacto dictator of the conservative movement is quite another. I suspect a whole lot of people will say 'so long', as I do. As far as I'm concerned, your website and opinion is neither needed nor desired.

9 posted on 02/15/2010 2:36:19 AM PST by RebelTex (FREEDOM IS EVERYONE'S RIGHT! AND EVERYONE'S RESPONSIBILITY!)
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To: FTJM
Based on the facts, it is very clear that President Obama is our lawfully elected President and the Office of President of the United States of America requires that though we may disagree with him and oppose him, we recognize and respect his position as President — a position entrusted to him by 69,456,897 voting Americans, or 52.9% of the popular vote.

No. Clinton still holds the record as sleaziest occupant of our White House in American history, but Obama is by far the most evil. The thug occupying our White House hates America, and any ethical debate, topic, or tactic that weakens his grip on power over our lives is a good thing. We have no obligation to recognize that liar and no obligation to respect the socialist who is attempting to gather more power over us.

An election with so many critical votes counted by ACORN and other votes obtained through information twisted by a compliant socialist faction in the media does not change our basic God-given rights: we are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights, and among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Obam's occupation of our White House does not change God's gift to us.

Obama is spending nearly $6T more than he is bringing in over his four years of tyranny, while trying to lose two wars and take power over our medical care and other aspects of our lives. That's quite a collection of failures for a first year dictator. When a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to place us under absolute despotism, it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for our future security. Sorry RedState, but I will continue to "question authority" because "dissent is the highest form of patriotism".

10 posted on 02/15/2010 2:36:40 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: FTJM
Even were the American public to fall under the belief that Barack Obama was born in a foreign country and 49 years ago his associates fabricated a narrative, a birth record, and placed birth announcements in both the Honolulu Advertiser and the Star Bulletin on August 4, 1961, to ensure that 49 years later he could become President of the United States,

Maybe Barack Obama was born outside of the United States and his parents, figuring it would benefit their son in his future life if he were a citizen of the greatest country in the world which provides its citizens with the greatest educational, career, and business opportunities in the world, fabricated a narrative, a birth record, and placed birth announcements in both the Honolulu Advertiser and the Star Bulletin as "proof" that their son was indeed an American citizen by birth.

11 posted on 02/15/2010 2:36:58 AM PST by Isabel C.
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Maybe Barack Obama was born outside of the United States and his parents, figuring it would benefit their son in his future life if he were a citizen of the greatest country in the world which provides its citizens with the greatest educational, career, and business opportunities in the world, fabricated a narrative, a birth record, and placed birth announcements in both the Honolulu Advertiser and the Star Bulletin as "proof" that their son was indeed an American citizen by birth.

Not necessary, the grandmother alone could have submitted the birth record, knowing that it was better that he be born in Hawaii. The announcements were generated once the record was submitted. No conspiracy needed and Erickson uses the same Obamabot conspiracy strawman.

12 posted on 02/15/2010 2:41:56 AM PST by FTJM
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To: FTJM
Even were the American public to fall under the belief that Barack Obama was born in a foreign country and 49 years ago his associates fabricated a narrative, a birth record, and placed birth announcements in both the Honolulu Advertiser and the Star Bulletin on August 4, 1961, to ensure that 49 years later he could become President of the United States, it is undisputed that Barack Obama’s mother is and has always been an American citizen

My Final Thought on the Birth Run on Sentence Issue.
14 posted on 02/15/2010 2:46:48 AM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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................................................ It is Settled!

15 posted on 02/15/2010 2:48:50 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: FTJM; null and void; Jeremiah Jr; sheik yerbouty

Phoney lying usurper Obama doesn’t belong in the White House. He is an obamanation that causes desolation. A serpent hatched from an egg doesn’t have a COLB. He slithered out of the Abyss. Congress is his two-horned false prophet that punishes through legislation those who won’t worship him or believe the lies read from the teleprompter.


16 posted on 02/15/2010 2:49:24 AM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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If Obama is an American, he dosn’t seem to like it very much...


17 posted on 02/15/2010 2:52:59 AM PST by BigCinBigD (')
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Just another “conservative” drinking the Obama Kool-Aid. I can’t wait for the ‘documenters’ to be proven correct and watch all the deniers run to cover their sorry behinds.


18 posted on 02/15/2010 2:53:16 AM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: FTJM

If this is his final thought, that means he has promised not to think any more.

Now, if he would only match that promise with the promise not to talk any more, that would be fine with me.


19 posted on 02/15/2010 2:57:24 AM PST by Fresh Wind ("...a whip of political correctness strangles their voice"-Vaclav Klaus on GW skeptics)
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Are you sure ? Are you absolutely sure this is your final word ? Do you promise ?


20 posted on 02/15/2010 3:00:59 AM PST by onona (dbada)
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