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World's tallest tower closed a month after opening
Associated Press ^ | Feb. 8, 2010 | ADAM SCHRECK

Posted on 02/08/2010 8:44:24 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY

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To: garyhope

“And the stuff made in Taiwan is probably much better than the stuff made on the mainland.”


I thought about that too. I lived on Taiwan back in the 60’s for a couple of years. I really like the people. But the thing that really got my Dad hopping mad and me too nowadays was the total blatant disregard for intellectual property rights. If anything could be copied, it was.

I’ve since come to realize that this is a cultural trait of the entire east Asia and middle east. Maybe it is a survival response? But it really makes a person sit back and wonder, why try and invent it, if it will only be stolen from you?


41 posted on 02/08/2010 10:24:34 AM PST by The Working Man (Any work is better than "welfare")
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To: OldDeckHand

Tallest building in the world built with slave labor and chinese steel. What could go wrong.....


42 posted on 02/08/2010 10:25:00 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

When you don’t pay your bills - things stop working...


43 posted on 02/08/2010 10:25:35 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

28 For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?
Luke 14:28 (KJV)


44 posted on 02/08/2010 10:27:21 AM PST by Rocky (Obama's policy: A thousand points of lies.)
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To: driftdiver
Not really. Does a pound of coffee have to weigh exactly a pound?

Is one caffeine molecule too many a cause for rejection?

Perfection is the enemy of good enough.

In the advanced world, everyone in the supply chain strives for perfection, on the average. Any given pound of coffee won't weigh exactly one pound, but 1/10,000 of the sum of 10,000 single pounds of coffee is closer to exactly 1 pound than darn near any given single measure.

The real difference? It's in the striving. We do. They don't.

Or as a friend of mine who spent some of the childhood in both Hindu India and muslim Pakistan observed:

In Pakistan, when a brick falls out of a wall, they shrug and say it's allah's will.

In India, when a brick falls out of a wall, they shrug and say it's the gods' will. BUT THEY PUT THE BRICK BACK!

45 posted on 02/08/2010 10:39:33 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 382 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

If everyone in the supply chain strives for perfection, the result will be pretty close thereto.
If everyone in the supply chain strives for IMperfection, the result assuredly will be.


46 posted on 02/08/2010 10:46:46 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Pelosi is practically President; the Obama is just her talk show host.)
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To: pabianice

Just imagine how much the water alone in all that plumbing weighs! And that’s before they add the first stick of furniture or any people. Wonder if they have to pump water to the upper floors.


47 posted on 02/08/2010 10:50:57 AM PST by jwparkerjr
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To: ctdonath2

Charm, wit, and levity
will win you in the start.
But in the end it’s brevity
that keeps the public’s heart.

(You win this round!)....


48 posted on 02/08/2010 10:51:04 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 382 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

a cultural mandate to AVOID precision and accuracy?!!!

so if every secgment done by every worker HAS to contain a flaw, then there are thousands of intentional flaws which can create a catastrophic failure.


49 posted on 02/08/2010 10:53:51 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: null and void

and in this case the entire thing is build on sand


50 posted on 02/08/2010 10:54:46 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 1776 Reborn

It was designed by a firm out of Chicago as I recall.

I’d trust the Chinese before I’d trust any outfit from Chicongo. The name of the game there is: “Money, Money, Whose got the Money.”


51 posted on 02/08/2010 10:58:13 AM PST by chainsaw ("When you subsidize poverty and failure, you get more of both." - James Dale Davidson)
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To: The Working Man

The rule of law is the only thing that keeps the world or parts of it civilized. It’s one of the things that makes America, despite it’s faults, great, at least until the TOTUS and his henchmen and women (Pelousy, Reid, Fwank) took over. Hopefully they will all be gone soon.


52 posted on 02/08/2010 11:19:55 AM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

BTTT


53 posted on 02/08/2010 11:21:46 AM PST by DollyCali (Absolutely...and if the refs did what they should have done 2 weeks ago, we would, by now, be very v)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
'World's tallest tower closed a month after opening'

The tower's architecture and engineering were performed by Skidmore, Owings, and Merrill of Chicago.


and that's all I'll say about that.

54 posted on 02/08/2010 11:29:21 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A. Einstein])
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To: MediaMole

//some significant structural issues//

If that’s true then carbon fiber wont fix it.


55 posted on 02/08/2010 11:30:02 AM PST by valkyry1
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To: OldDeckHand
To your question, Burj Khalifa was built almost exclusively with Chinese steel, leading many in the business to question its long-term (or even short-term) stability. To say that Chinese steel has been plagued with quality issues, is somewhat of an understatement.

We buy some products made of Chinese steel. The first thing we do is strip all the paint. The second is to Magnaflux every part. The third is to weld up all the cracks. Then we Magnaflux again. Once all the cracks are gone, we repaint it.

Some of our competitors sell this stuff right off the boat.

Uh-oh.

56 posted on 02/08/2010 11:45:37 AM PST by jimt
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To: jwparkerjr
Wonder if they have to pump water to the upper floors.

A typical city water main pressure at street level would be lucky to reach one tenth of that bulding's height.

Short answer: Yes.

57 posted on 02/08/2010 11:56:51 AM PST by Erasmus (<under construction>)
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To: Rocky

That’s the one I was thinking of ...


58 posted on 02/08/2010 11:58:55 AM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: null and void

I _do_ like the analogy of the brick.

To digress...
Reminded me of a missionary (Zimbabwe, IIRC) who took an old tire & rope and made a swing. Local kids loved it, and parents would bring kids to it. Sometimes the rope would come untied, so he would toss the rope back over the branch and tie it back on. He had to leave for a couple years. Upon return, he returned to the swing, only to find it laying on the ground - clear that it had been there almost as long as he had been gone. He realized that NOBODY there had enough initiative to do something as simple and productive as toss the rope over & tie the knot.
Some cultures simply do not have the wherewithal to maintain progress.


59 posted on 02/08/2010 12:11:39 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Pelosi is practically President; the Obama is just her talk show host.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Someone should set up a camera, running continually, to record the tower’s collapse. Would take about $2K to do; payoff would be in the millions.


60 posted on 02/08/2010 12:13:18 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Pelosi is practically President; the Obama is just her talk show host.)
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