Posted on 02/01/2010 8:02:17 PM PST by pissant
In the United States, courts can, in fact, remove a chief executive officer of a government if that officer is found to be ineligible, according to a court precedent cited in an appeal of a California lawsuit that challenges Barack Obama's legitimacy in the White House.
A multitude of cases have been brought over the issue of Obama's eligibility. Some are by critics who have doubts about whether he was born in Hawaii in 1961 as he has written, and others are from those who question whether the framers of the Constitution specifically excluded dual citizens – Obama's father was a subject of the British crown at Obama's birth – from being eligible for the presidency.
The disputes revolve around the Constitution's demand that the president be a "natural born citizen."
Now in an appeal of a state court case in California that named as a defendant California Secretary of State Debra Bowen, attorney Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation is arguing that there already are two precedents that should be applied: one in a court case in which state officials removed from the ballot a nominee for president simply because he did not meet the Constitution's eligibility requirements.
"In 1968, the Peace and Freedom Party submitted the name of Eldridge Cleaver as a qualified candidate for president of the United States. The then-Secretary of State, Mr. Frank Jordan, found that, according to Mr. Cleaver's birth certificate, he was only 34 years old, one year shy of the 35 years of age needed to be on the ballot as a candidate for president," the brief, being filed this week, argues.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Huh? I haven’t spent more than an hour on the issue before today. Doubt I’ve made more than a dozen comments other than snide jokes about the half-American, half-assed Kenyan wannabe tin-pot dictator.
We have lots of people on FR. Some are more interested in one issue than another. We do not all have to concentrate on the same identical issue. We cover a lot of bases on FR. You go ahead and cover the bases of your choice and allow others to cover theirs.
Thanks.
I appreciate your comments. I think I know how I should proceed.
The form that the DNC used to certify Obama as their candidate only certified his ‘natural born American citizenship in Hawaii, in ALL the other states, that statement is missing.
In other words, the DNS ONLY certified Obama as their candidate, the DNC did NOT certify him as ‘natural born’ in 49 of the 50 states.
This possibly was to reduce the culpability of teh DNC for filing false certification.
The DNC either did not exhaustively investigate Obama’s citizenship or they did investigate it and decided that he would win the election and therefore they hid his ineligibility because they didn’t think they could win with another candidate or they themselves were so corrupt (Marxists/Socialists) that they wanted their Manchurian Candidate to win.
the newspapers seem proof enough BUT
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Irrelevant microfilm, totally irrelevant.
Good one. Stay tuned.
JB Williams
Canada Free Press
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999
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Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.
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But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.
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Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.
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Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.
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WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?
A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.
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DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOM HAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.
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A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST… and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..
Do YOU fear Obama?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999
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A precious few, indeed. Lets get behind those few brave patriots who are out there in the trenches every day working to prove Obama’s inelgibility:
Dr. Orly has put her life’s blood into this fight. SHE HAS MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP FROM COWARDLY REPUBLICANS AND THE SCOTUS.
Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials.
She has even gone to Isreal and Russia to spread the message about Obama’s inelgibility!
She states the case expertly, including the bc and natural born citizen aspect, when not abused by the U.S. state-controlled media. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132880
Sure, Dr. Orly makes mistakes. We all do. But Dr. Orly is no dummy. How many of us could go to a foreign country, learn 5 languages, establish a successful dental practice, a successful real estate business AND pass the California state bar- one of the hardest in the U.S. to pass?
She may be a ‘mail order’ attorney and not a Harvard lawyer, but she IS an attorney with all the rights and privilages of a Harvard lawyer nevertheless!
The point is; she has the passion, the zeal, the courage of her convictions and the love of America and its freedoms (unlike many of our ‘great’ attorneys and ‘patriots’ who criticize her) that will not let her give up!
She is exhausted. She is nervous. She is frustrated. It is reported that she gets by on 4-5 hours of sleep per night, and her family is very worried about her health- as well as her safety.
She makes mistakes. But she will NOT give up. She will keep on until she gets it right.
So let’s get behind this great little Russian refugee and great American patriot.
Stop tearing her apart. The Obots on FR don’t need our help.
The obots are scared to death of this little lady and her determination. That’s why they come out in droves all over the net on forums, chat rooms and even the national news to attack and ridicule.
Even if Orly NEVER brings Obama to trial, she has almost single handly brought his ineligibility to world wide attention, caused him to spend MILLIONS on lawyers to keep his records hidden AND CAUSED THE MUZZIE TO SWEAT BULLETS!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcChG5pRTOE&feature=player_embedded
I agree the Black Panther case is important but all it will do it get Holder canned. Obongo will blame it on Holder, Holder will resign. Big whoop.
These kind of things concern me more:
In a preview of the State of the Union address, President Obama has recommended a plan to help students pay off their debt – with taxpayer dollars, of course.
As Politico reports:
The Obama-Biden Administration will make student loans more affordable by limiting a borrower’s payments to 10 percent of his or her income above a basic living allowance. It will also keep the total cost of loan repayment manageable by forgiving all remaining debt after 10 years of payments for those in public service work and 20 years for all others. The monthly payment for a single borrower earning $30,000 who owes $20,000 in loans would be $115 a month, compared with $228 a month under the standard 10-year repayment plan.
Got that? College graduates saddled with student loan debt who decide to go into “public service work” will have their debt forgiven after 10 years. And if they do anything else, like join the private sector, their debt will be forgiven in 20 years.
At this point, it’s not entirely clear what type of “public service work” would qualify an individual for this deal. But as it stands, the public sector is appealing enough to college graduates. According to USA Today, the number of government employees taking in six-figure salaries has exploded, and the growth of these big-shot salaries has pushed the average federal worker’s pay to $71,206, compared with $40,331 in the private sector.
http://blog.heritage.org/2010/01/27/the-public-student-loan-option/
It’s not patriotic or wise if it takes your eye off the ball
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Multi tasking is your friend. Try it sometime.
You aren’t multitasking my friend, you’re obsessing with a fantasy.
He’s buying off young voters - and their parents. Democrats do that all the time. Clinton bought off the American Legion.
If you think just canning - and possibly indicting - Holder is no big deal, especially if he turns on Obie, then we definitely are at cross purposes.
“Hawaii became a state in August of 1959. If O was born before that date, he wouldn’t even be a US citizen, reagardless of parentage”
This isn’t true. This is why this is so dangerous. People become obsessed with a bogus issue because they are misinformed.
Concentrate on the New Black Panther case. Forget this baloney that has been thrown out of every court.
What part of my statement is not true?
This isn’t true. Both parents are not required to be US citizens. This is why this “birther” stuff is so dangerous. Misinformed, well-intentioned people are chasing after moonbeams while important stuff is ignored.
Is the Federalist Society, Heritage Foundation, every federal judge, the Hawaiian government, snopes, factcheck and the USSC all in on this conspiracy or are they all stupid? Is it that Phil Berg and only those like him know the truth?
I checked it out earlier. Same old Birther stuff for the most part. Nothing new here so I moved along.
That if Obie were born in the Territory of Hawaii instead of the state he wouldn’t be a US citizen.
> I guess you think Bush should prove he didn’t know about 9-11?
Bush isn’t president now, but nice try at obfuscation.
> Both parents are not required to be US citizens. This is
> why this “birther” stuff is so dangerous
How is “Natural-born citizen” defined?
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