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Obamacare Is Dead and Here's Why [Obamacare Ongoing Thread]
Town Hall ^ | 1-26-10 | Robert A. Levy

Posted on 01/25/2010 11:27:02 PM PST by JustPiper

As the Massachusetts blame game unfolds, the president’s unpopular health bill leads the list. But the substantive provisions of the bill were just part of the problem. Perhaps more important, voters were appalled by how the deal unfolded.

Consider the pre-election giveaway to the labor unions. Negotiators agreed to exempt union contracts until 2018 from the tax on so-called Cadillac health-insurance plans. That backroom bargain not only outraged the voters, it also violated the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, requiring the federal government to extend equal protection of the laws to all U.S. persons. Of course, not all voters understood the constitutional nuances, but they sensed that something was very wrong; and they reacted.

I have been disturbed by the socialists for years, ever since I learned many members of Congress 'openly' joined the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America). Several years ago, the names were published on the DSA site. (since removed of course) Please post any info you have, many of you have been on this issue for many years, & if we can store it all on one thread, we have our FreeRepublic Warehouse on the enemies of the state. How DO we combat this, when it's coming at us from every angle? When the people have been asleep for decades. Please post anything you have found or accumulated. Also choose a dictator these people follow, of particular interest,those in D.C. who have been quoted with their adulation of one.

Communism- Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism-Trotskyism-Maoism- Hoxhaism-Hoxhaism-Titoism ETC


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To: JustPiper; MestaMachine; Arthur Wildfire! March; SE Mom

The House will have to vote again?

To the Republic: Thank you.

For boots that walked through brush and briar,

For shoes that marched knee-deep in blood,

For hand-hewn homes and rails,

For the breath of air our freedoms fill,

For the crosses now on foreign hills,

For the souls lying still in the deep,

For the willingness to risk your all,

For the thrill of the Patriot’s call.

You’ve given us a heart of steel,

Afire with knowledge that we’re free.

Though politicians can ply their lies,

The light of liberty still shines in our eyes.

This God-fearing, God-blessed nation

Has led the world in innovation

Because with freedom comes Eureka moments

That by No tyranny will we be o’ertaken.


2,721 posted on 03/25/2010 2:49:19 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: combat_boots; JustPiper

You go, Boots!

McCain gets Wobbly, backs off slightly from ‘no cooperation’ threat
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2478591/posts


2,722 posted on 03/25/2010 5:11:52 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: combat_boots

B U M P


2,723 posted on 03/25/2010 5:18:05 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: JustPiper; MestaMachine; Arthur Wildfire! March

Obama cannot be the Antichrist because the Antichrist wouldn’t need 2 teleprompters, or have to sleep with a Wookie.


2,724 posted on 03/25/2010 5:21:24 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

ROFL! “The Anti-Christ said there are fifty seven states ... Seeking healthcare reform, the Anti-Christ doens’t know a breathalizer from an ‘inhilator’ ... The Anti-Christ spoke about his corpse-men ...”

Wow, if that’s the Anti-Christ, I’m Elvis.


2,725 posted on 03/25/2010 5:25:37 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: JustPiper; Alamo-Girl

God bless you, Alamo-Girl!


2,726 posted on 03/25/2010 5:30:05 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: JustPiper; TigersEye; onyx

JustPiper posted dangerous legislation in great detail with the following conclusion:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=2705#2705
“This has the effect of removing all current legal obstructions to the use of military FORCE against the citizen population afforded by posse commitatus.”


2,727 posted on 03/25/2010 5:48:39 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: JustPiper

I can see that YOU are not one to mess with and I applaud your passion to fight the evil that existed in your life, including moving, which is never easy.

Skimming through the thread....my hope is that the dems see LOTS of protests when they go on their *break*. Poor things, it must be so hard on them...ruining the country is extremely hard work.


2,728 posted on 03/25/2010 6:10:50 AM PDT by azishot (J.D. Hayworth...U.S. Senator FOR Arizona...http://www.jdforsenate.com/)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

My dad was a Navy Corpseman in WW2.


2,729 posted on 03/25/2010 6:28:59 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: JustPiper

“Can somebody tell me what this has to do with universal HEALTH CARE? Why does he need an ARMED FORCE for use inside the country? “

You know why.


2,730 posted on 03/25/2010 6:34:03 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: JustPiper
LIVE~ Vote-a-rama in the Senate ~Thursday 25 March
2,731 posted on 03/25/2010 7:07:53 AM PDT by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

He just stayed at a Helliday Inn before he got elected.


2,732 posted on 03/25/2010 7:10:50 AM PDT by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: MestaMachine

Yeah ;-)


2,733 posted on 03/25/2010 7:15:04 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: rwrcpa1; molybdenum; Impy; TigersEye; floriduh voter; snippy_about_it; ovrtaxt; syriacus; ...

Warning flare — posse commitatus ended?

JustPiper posted dangerous legislation in great detail with the following conclusion:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=2705#2705
“This has the effect of removing all current legal obstructions to the use of military FORCE against the citizen population afforded by posse commitatus.”

Bond Rates and Obamacare (U.S. Treasury bonds just lost their status as world’s safest investment)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2479504/posts

While you were sleeping: The Vampire Congress strikes again
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2479260/posts
Malkin: Sen. Coburn’s attempt to bar Viagra for sex offenders was tabled by 57-42. Democrat Sens. Bayh and Nelson voted with the Republicans.
[57 senators knowingly give viagra to perverts with YOUR tax money.]
There were no Democratic amendments proposed [snip]

McCain gets Wobbly, backs off slightly from ‘no cooperation’ threat
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2478591/posts

Is this the face of Jesus Christ? [God bless WND]
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=131177
Figure of crucified man on Shroud comes to life

More links coming up:

MinuteMan Organization Disbanding

OUTRAGE: Jesus gets ‘gay’ just days before Passover, Easter

Praying in park puts man in jail for 9 days

Aaron David Miller called 0 “king of the world for a day”

GOP Lawmaker Darrell Issa to Investigate White House [Sestak’s sleazy job offer]

Several links on 0-care, Dingle’s “gaffe”, Coulter strikes back [stupidest American univ.], Hillary Clinton blames US for Mexican violence, Alinsky trainer developed 1st Obama volunteers, UN body to look at meat and climate link [I’m pleasantly surprised — they want to embararss themselves more.]


2,734 posted on 03/25/2010 8:20:12 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

MinuteMan Organization Disbanding
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2479351/posts

Jesus gets ‘gay’ just days before Passover, Easter
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=131505
Protests planned Saturday as town erupts over homosexual Christ

Praying in park puts man in jail for 9 days
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2479156/posts
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=131521

Capital Gains Taxes Set To Rise, Crimping Investment, Savings
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2479275/posts

[Democrat] Rep. Dingell Says ObamaCare Will Eventually ‘Control the People’...
http://www.breitbart.tv/shocking-audio-rep-dingell-says-obamacare-will-eventually-control-the-people

COULTER STRIKES BACK:

I’d just call that Canadian mob of [college?] kids knuckle dragging hick wannabes who banjo playing hillbillies could look down their noses at. Ann Coulter has more class: “This has never, ever, ever happened before — even at the stupidest American university”
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/technology/speech+cancelled/2718883/story.html

0 is King of the World? [No more than China IMHO.]
Netanyahu “is too smart not to understand that Washington has changed,” veteran Middle East peace negotiator Aaron David Miller told POLITICO on Tuesday. “And that a potentially transformative president who is now king of the world for a day is facing off against Benjamin Netanyahu, king of Israel. And the fight between the two is not today. What we see now is positioning.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2462221/posts?page=998#998

More Dip-lunacy

Clinton blames US for Mexican violence
http://www.infowars.com/clinton-blames-us-for-mexican-violence
Press TV | America’s ‘insatiable appetite’ for drugs and the surge of its arms in Mexico are fueling conflicts between drug cartels and Mexican security forces, says top US diplomat.

Alinsky trainer developed 1st Obama volunteers
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=131465
Group modeled on Marxist icon teaches tactics of confrontation, intimidation

UN body to look at meat and climate link
http://www.infowars.com/un-body-to-look-at-meat-and-climate-link/
BBC News | UN specialists are to look again at the contribution of meat production to climate change, after claims that an earlier report exaggerated the link.

[Speaking of the UN ...]

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UN praises U.S. health bill...
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62N5AU20100324

0-care:

VIDEO: Clyburn says Republicans ‘aiding and abetting terrorism’ against Dems...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUbFrAyZyoA

G.O.P. Forces New House Vote on Package of Health Bill Changes
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2479281/posts

GOP Lawmaker Darrell Issa Poised to Call for Special Prosecutor to Investigate White House
http://www.infowars.com/gop-lawmaker-darrell-issa-poised-to-call-for-special-prosecutor-to-investigate-white-house/
CBS News | Rep. Darrell Issa will call for a special prosecutor to investigate the White House if it does not address Rep. Joe Sestak’s claim that he was offered a federal job in exchange for dropping out of the Pennsylvania Senate primary.

Gap in health care law’s protection for children (kids not covered like promised)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2478870/posts

‘Your Medical Records Aren’t Secure’ [and what about identity theft?]
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703580904575132111888664060.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_opinion
[People will often be too embarassed to seek treatment.]

Healthcare Bill Exempts Congress And Staff
http://www.infowars.com/healthcare-bill-exempts-congress-and-staff
Fascist Soup | As with all tyrannical governments — laws are for the little people.

FBI investigating threats...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100324/ap_on_go_co/us_health_overhaul_threats

COFFIN PLACED ON CONGRESSMAN’S LAWN...
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34982.html

Obama Awarded Hundreds of Thousands in Airport Grants to Stupak’s District Two Days Before Vote
http://www.infowars.com/obama-awarded-hundreds-of-thousands-in-airport-grants-to-stupaks-district-two-days-before-vote
Code Red | Did Stupak compromise his supposed principled stand against taxpayer funding of abortion in exchange for taxpayer dollars for pet projects?

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Move Toward Five-Day Postal Delivery [government efficiency]
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703312504575141932505872768.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsSecond

Almost quarter of Republicans think Obama ‘may be the Anti-Christ’...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1260195/U-S-healthcare-reform-14-rebel-states-sue.html
[The bluebloods will be ashamed, but mistrust of our leaders is the key to limited government.]

NAKED CITY: Nude statues popping up all over Manhattan...
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local-beat/Naked-City-Manly-Art-Work-Pops-Up-Around-Town-88999267.html

James Cameron trashes ‘dangerous’ Glenn Beck; Defends ‘global warming’ stance...
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3id51767e5e16b09797270e439dedbbcd6
http://www.thrfeed.com/2010/03/audio-james-cameron-slams-glenn-beck.html

James Cameron trashes Glenn Beck - ‘Avatar’ director wants to debate Fox News host
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2479342/posts

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Obama-nomics

Sales of New Homes Drop to Lowest on Record...
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a8xSP8Wb3iW8

Economic Stimulus Bill May Give J.P. Morgan a Tax Refund of $1.4 Billion
http://www.infowars.com/economic-stimulus-bill-may-give-j-p-morgan-a-tax-refund-of-1-4-billion/
Wall Street Journal | J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. is nearing a deal that would allow it to benefit from a tax refund of as much as $1.4 billion, becoming the latest company to tap a little-noticed plank in an economic stimulus bill.

Ron Paul Schools Geithner On Austrian Economics
http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-schools-geithner-on-austrian-economics
Campaign for Liberty | Congressman Paul questioned Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner on Austrian economic theory and government’s creation of moral hazard.

Is Greece our economic trial canary?

Euro plunges on doubts over Greece aid...
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d228a2c2-371e-11df-b542-00144feabdc0.html

Greece Will Default ‘at Some Point’...
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=awgDP17rsJ70

Obama-nomics and Greece Link List, Updated
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2464021/posts

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Perfume for congress’ funky numbers

By THOMAS SOWELL

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/perfume_for_congress_funky_numbers_PuewbW90gQmCMrdCAmkErN#ixzz0j89fBa5q

Killer icicles terrorise Russians...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100324/lf_afp/russiaweatherincident_20100324150155


2,735 posted on 03/25/2010 8:21:48 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

God bless your family for their sacrifice. I hope you didn’t feel that I was insensitive.


2,736 posted on 03/25/2010 8:26:07 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Not at all. Obama said it ;-)


2,737 posted on 03/25/2010 8:27:57 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: JustPiper; TigersEye; Impy

ROFL!

justpiper:

The Senate bill doesn’t provide any funding for the expansion of the IRS, and it virtually ties the hands of the IRS to collect fees on individuals and businesses who don’t buy health insurance.

IRS to Serve as Health Reform Enforcer, but Lacks Authority to Enforce
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/22/irs-serve-health-reform-enforcer-lacks-authority-enforce/


2,738 posted on 03/25/2010 8:29:17 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: rwrcpa1; molybdenum; floriduh voter; snippy_about_it; ovrtaxt; syriacus; TigerLikesRooster; ...

FLASH ..... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

justpiper:

The Senate bill doesn’t provide any funding for the expansion of the IRS, and it virtually ties the hands of the IRS to collect fees on individuals and businesses who don’t buy health insurance.

IRS to Serve as Health Reform Enforcer, but Lacks Authority to Enforce
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/22/irs-serve-health-reform-enforcer-lacks-authority-enforce/


2,739 posted on 03/25/2010 8:31:53 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: onyx; publius321; DoughtyOne

Flash ..... !

Post 2696 — IRS is hamstrung by poorly drafted bill.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=2696#2696


2,740 posted on 03/25/2010 8:35:33 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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