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Men not so primitive: Study shows macho Y chromosome evolving faster than rest of genetic code
Canadian Press via Google News ^ | 13 January 2010 | Seth Borenstein

Posted on 01/13/2010 7:43:49 PM PST by Fractal Trader

Women may think of men as primitive, but new research indicates that the Y chromosome - the thing that makes a man male - is evolving far faster than the rest of the human genetic code.

A new study comparing the Y chromosomes from humans and chimpanzees, our nearest living relatives, show that they are about 30 per cent different. That is far greater than the 2 per cent difference between the rest of the human genetic code and that of the chimp's, according to a study appearing online Wednesday in the journal Nature. These changes occurred in the last 6 million years or so, relatively recently when it comes to evolution. "The Y chromosome appears to be the most rapidly evolving of the human chromosomes," said study co-author Dr. David Page, director of the prestigious Whitehead Institute and a professor of biology at Massachusetts Institute of Technology. "It's an almost ongoing churning of gene reconstruction. It's like a house that's constantly being rebuilt."

Before men get too impressed with themselves, lead author Jennifer Hughes offers some words of caution: Just because the Y chromosome, which determines gender, is evolving at a speedy rate it doesn't necessarily mean men themselves are more evolved.

Researchers took the most detailed examination of the Y chromosome, which females do not have, of both humans and chimps and found entire sections dramatically different. There were even entire genes on the human Y chromosome that weren't on the chimp, said Hughes, also of the Whitehead Institute. [SNIP] Until recently the Y chromosome was considered the unassuming figure in genetics. [SNIP] A few years ago some researchers even suggested that the Y chromosome was shrinking so that in 50,000 years it would just disappear - and so would men.

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A few years ago some researchers even suggested that the Y chromosome was shrinking so that in 50,000 years it would just disappear - and so would men...

Still, for some, men are just lowly sperm donors.

1 posted on 01/13/2010 7:43:50 PM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: SunkenCiv

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2 posted on 01/13/2010 7:44:06 PM PST by Fractal Trader
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Men not so primitive: Study shows macho Y chromosome evolving faster than rest of genetic code

Waddya think, that we kill each other off so fast for nothing?

Excel or don't get laid, baby (not that females have anything to do with that).

3 posted on 01/13/2010 7:51:24 PM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Fractal Trader

I guess this means women are the primitive ones...since they lack the most highly evolved chromosome of all.


4 posted on 01/13/2010 7:51:30 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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>> Another reason has to do with the nature of mating. When female chimps are in heat, they mate frequently and with many partners, so there is an evolutionary pressure on the male to produce the most and best sperm to propagate his genes, Page said.

(cough)


5 posted on 01/13/2010 7:51:59 PM PST by max americana
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To: Fractal Trader

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/monkeys.wav


6 posted on 01/13/2010 7:52:24 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Fractal Trader

If women think the world would be so much better off without men, if that were to happen, it would be hell on earth.

Who’s going to listen to the women complaining about whatever isn’t perfect that’s bothering them at that moment? Other women? Not likely. Listening to gossip/small talk is one thing, listening to another woman complain about the big and small things (probably a lot of things that’s bugging them personally, too), totally different.


7 posted on 01/13/2010 7:55:18 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Fractal Trader

IIRC, the Y chromosome recombines with itself. Perhaps that has something to do with it.


8 posted on 01/13/2010 8:04:05 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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A few years ago some researchers even suggested that the Y chromosome was shrinking so that in 50,000 years it would just disappear - and so would men.

But we have been a successful sex, why would that success disappear? Isn't that de-evolution or some such? Evolution sure is confusing. A biology teacher friend told me (with a smile) the most common phrase in evolution circles is "you don't understand how evolution works". No wonder.

9 posted on 01/13/2010 8:17:17 PM PST by phredo53 (Caution: This post does not comply with White House standards.)
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To: Fractal Trader

I’m glad I was not a part of this study because I don’t believe I have evolved much further than Cain and Able. Sometimes when I hear my dear liberal brothers speak I want to pick up a rock and just clunk them on the head.

Maybe the fact that I don’t indicates that I have evolved some. It could also mean I have an ill informed idea of what prison life is like and I fear that it is not conducive to the happy or healthy lifestyle of a heterosexual American male and the strong desire to avoid it overrules all other emotions.


10 posted on 01/13/2010 8:25:42 PM PST by Lewis Morris (Having lost sight of our goals, we re-double our efforts!)
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as a woman i am glad to hear the y chromosome is not leaving. however, i personally like men who are a bit primitive. i have no interest in those highly polished metrosexual morons who cannot change a tire, use a chainsaw, run a cordless drill without a trip to the e.r., or split wood with a maul. the pantywaist who tells his pms-ing wife he knows how she feels and understands her being so irrational should never procreate. thank God for primitive men...every sweaty, smelly, belching, manly inch of them.


11 posted on 01/13/2010 8:48:20 PM PST by madamemayhem (defeat isn't getting knocked down, it's not getting back up)
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“as a woman i am glad to hear the y chromosome is not leaving. however, i personally like men who are a bit primitive. i have no interest in those highly polished metrosexual morons who cannot change a tire, use a chainsaw, run a cordless drill without a trip to the e.r., or split wood with a maul. the pantywaist who tells his pms-ing wife he knows how she feels and understands her being so irrational should never procreate. thank God for primitive men...every sweaty, smelly, belching, manly inch of them.”

I think I’m in love.


12 posted on 01/13/2010 11:36:37 PM PST by Daniel II (I'm Jim Thompson, this is my brother Jimmy, and this is my other brother Jimmy)
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13 posted on 01/14/2010 4:26:33 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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14 posted on 01/14/2010 4:30:20 AM PST by Salamander (Hold on to all your fears 'cause when I get outta here, vengeance is mine, mine, mine!)
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...it doesn't necessarily mean men themselves are more evolved...

My wife would agree with that statement.
15 posted on 01/14/2010 4:31:38 AM PST by ComputerGuy
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To: Thud

FYI


16 posted on 01/14/2010 4:40:35 AM PST by Dark Wing
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To: Fractal Trader

Does this mean that women are less evolved; that they are closer to chimps than men are?


17 posted on 01/14/2010 4:42:30 AM PST by csmusaret (Oops. My karma just ran over my dogma.)
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Just the *alien* coming out.

http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/01/08/01288.html


18 posted on 01/14/2010 4:43:46 AM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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Study shows macho Y chromosome evolving faster than rest of genetic code

Aw sh!t, does that explain metrosexuals?
19 posted on 01/14/2010 7:45:28 AM PST by BJClinton ("Worse" technically is "change".)
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[Another reason has to do with the nature of mating. When female chimps are in heat, they mate frequently and with many partners, so there is an evolutionary pressure on the male to produce the most and best sperm to propagate his genes, Page said.

To test this out, Hughes said she hopes to soon examine the Y chromosomes of a rhesus macaque, which is fairly promiscuous, and the marmoset, which is more monogamous than early humans probably were.]

Hmmmm, I see signs of wild monkey sex.


20 posted on 01/14/2010 9:37:57 AM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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