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Attorney Stephen Pidgeon to Glenn Beck
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Posted on 01/05/2010 7:16:47 PM PST by Man50D

Attorney Stephen Pidgeon is one of the lawyers involved in the B.C. issue. He is currently working with Leo Donofrio on the Chrysler lawsuit. Below is his letter to Glenn Beck. Great job, Stephen! S.B.

Dear Mr. Beck:

You are ill-informed on the “birther” issue. Barack Obama, by his own admission, was a British subject at birth. He has never denied having a Kenyan father, who himself was a British subject as a Kenyan native. This is easly established under the British Nationality Act of 1948. He is therefore disqualified to run for the office of the President, because the office is not available to subjects of other governments. The issue is very simple, and very obvious. Obama himself admitted that he wasn’t a natural born citizen when he debated Alan Keyes in 2004.

Let’s see you deal with this one. There is nothing “nutty” about it, and it doesn’t depend on whether his maternal grandmother tried to cover up a foreign birth in Hawaii by placing newspaper notices. It is as plain as your face. BHO is a foreign national first, and an American secondarily, if at all. That is why he thinks there are 57 states; why he doesn’t understand the constitution; why he wants to give us Britain’s health care system (it’s all in the teeth, don’t you know); why he thinks Interpol should have greater authority in the US than US law enforcement; etc. He is a British subject and has no business holding the office of POTUS.

If you think you can overlook this constitutional crisis as not part of the Rubicon, you are mistaken. One constitutional overlook breeds another and the next thing you know, the financial industry is nationalized, the auto industry is nationalized, the health care industry is about to be nationalized, and the energy industry will soon be nationalized.

Ultimately, it is all going to be okay, because socialism only lasts until other people’s money (OPM) runs out, and binge spender BHO has spent all the money we have and all the money we will ever have for the next several generations. He spent all of this before he got his socialist healthcare on the table. He and his wife have partied like Eddie Murphy in The Distinguished Gentleman (1992) since taking office, while he has busied himself with overthrowing the constitutional republic, establishing a new Islamic empire worldwide, disarming and crippling America, and unilaterally dividing Israel and Jerusalem. The only budget constraint for Obama is ink and paper (and he is working his way around that) and his foreign policy advisor appears to be “mirror, mirror on the wall”. He has bankrupted the nation, which the sleeping Oprah watchers are now discovering for the very first time. The reality of the bankruptcy will hit home with gusto in 2010. Not only will we suffer with 30% unemployment, a complete collapse of real estate, and a complete collapse of the dollar, we will also suffer the slings and arrows of dramatic military defeats, as we let this foreigner steer the ship of state. Most Americans have no idea how bad it is going to get.

As for Obama: he will be one of history’s most reviled figures – on a par with Nero – as a fool who couldn’t even understand that when he denigrated the United States, he was destroying the very state upon which his safety and his legacy depended. He will suffer dramatic defeat in Afghanistan and Iraq – it will not be like Viet Nam, and his name will be tarred with it. It will be more like the disastrous defeat of Xerxes at Salamis, or the Ottomans at Sisek, or the Moors at Tours; a game changing defeat that will forever cement the destiny of the republic known as the United States of America. Obama will join the other names in history who suffered cataclysmic losses in the lands of Magog.

His legacy? A communist, collectivist fool, brainwashed by red diaper doper babies haunting the halls of ivy league academia whose agenda was to bring back the failed Bolshevik revolution worldwide, who brought his fully bloomed ignorance to power illegally in the US because of the needs of his narcissistic ego, whose illegitimacy caused the US to go bankrupt and to suffer its worst military setbacks in the history of the nation in just a few short months. History will marvel at the foolishness of Americans, and historians will wonder how we as a people could have allowed this to happen. Then, of course, historians will ultimately conclude that the demise of the greatest nation the world had ever known happened because the watchdogs whose duty it was to warn Americans of such possibilities – the so-called news media – conspired with foreign powers and global financial criminals to destroy America from the inside, as a result of their cowardice, malevolence and silence.

Contributing member: Glenn Beck, who simply could not bring himself to utter the truth about Obama – that he is a usurper, holding the presidency illegally and unconstitutionally, because he is without a legal birthright. Let us never forget who shirked their duty to tell the truth in these last hours, and let us not allow history to forget.

STEPHEN PIDGEON


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: beck; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; donofrio; gb; glennbeck; leodonofrio; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamafail; stevenpidgeon
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To: wintertime

And in this post, it tries to again conflate, where born with citizenship of the PARENTS. These are the usual obfuscatory ploys of the obamanoid gang at FR. Honesty is not their strong suit.


181 posted on 01/06/2010 12:22:46 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Thanks Uncle for at least providing me with something that can be researched. I will follow up on that.


182 posted on 01/06/2010 12:23:29 PM PST by newheart ("It will keep the government out of your health care decisions..." Barack Obama, July 23, 2009)
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To: newheart

Look up the logical fallacy of the undistributed middle, fool. And your hero, Eric, is too busy dexstroying your God-given rights to mess with talking points. If you get them regularly, they are probably from axelgreasy.


183 posted on 01/06/2010 12:24:45 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Uncle Chip; newheart

Bwahahahahaha, didn’t it sound so sincere? LOL


184 posted on 01/06/2010 12:25:54 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
Be still my heart. I may have to dust off my degree in Philosophy. While we are on the topic of fallacies you might want to consider rethinking your ad hominem approach to argument.

In the meantime, I will carry on this discussion with people who are willing to actually make a case instead of hurling off one supposedly clever insult after another.

185 posted on 01/06/2010 12:37:43 PM PST by newheart ("It will keep the government out of your health care decisions..." Barack Obama, July 23, 2009)
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To: newheart

Newhaeart, do your own research, it isn’t that hard.


186 posted on 01/06/2010 12:45:18 PM PST by stockpirate (Dec. 24, 2009, the day liberty in America died to applause in the US Senate. Republicans helped)
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To: wintertime

Well, revolutionists all have different ideas about how to go about it, and sometimes it’s the combination that does the trick.


187 posted on 01/06/2010 12:48:41 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: newheart; LucyT

Lucyt can you send newheart the link to the BIG birther thread so he can research all 9,000 posts like the rest of us have done? This will allow him to catch up.

thx


188 posted on 01/06/2010 12:52:13 PM PST by stockpirate (Dec. 24, 2009, the day liberty in America died to applause in the US Senate. Republicans helped)
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To: All

Was/is Obama’s mother a citizen of the US? If she is, doesn’t that make him a citizen? I thought that just being a child of a citizen made you a citizen, but I am not certain. I’d like to know. On another thread, there are people saying his mother’s a citizen of the US. Just curious if anyone knows.

BTW, If you’re going to be rude, don’t bother with a reply, please, seeking out information should not be a burn-at-the-stake offense.


189 posted on 01/06/2010 12:54:02 PM PST by 6amgelsmama (The enemy within is most dangerous. Our soldiers aren't the only ones called to fight!)
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To: Uncle Chip

So, apparently you agree that Obama was born in Hawaii, and was thus born a citizen of the United States, but you believe that he also had dual Kenyan citizenship and is thus ineligible? Help me out, here.


190 posted on 01/06/2010 1:39:23 PM PST by aNYCguy
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To: rockinqsranch; Brytani; Rafterman; Bushbacker1; katiekins1; MinuteGal; Matchett-PI; roaddog727; ...
I saw this for the first time on the pop up from the California thread telling me what the latest post is over there posted by SeekTheTruth, and I thank SeekTheTruth for posting this. Disclaimer: I don’t listen to Glen Beck, so I haven’t any comment on him, or his program, nor have I a bone, or not to pick with him. It’s my understanding he’s a good Conservative, and I believe that which FReepers tell me, fool that I am. I say GOD Bless Mr. Stephen Pidgeon for stating that which I perceive as precisely the truth. Excellent Post."

I am sorry to say that Glenn Beck has now shown us all this fact:

Glenn is in the opposition control mode. Although he will supply the public with truths about the Communist actions of the Obama administration and Congress, he must keep the ONE TRUTH from coming out that would stop all the craziness immediately! And that TRUTH is that Barack Hussein/Barry Sortoro/Obama is not constitutionally qualified to be the Commander In Chief!

191 posted on 01/06/2010 1:42:59 PM PST by seekthetruth (MY PRAYER EVERY DAY OF 2010---- PSALM 109:8)
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To: newheart; Uncle Chip
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.” My reading of that sentence would lead me to think that as of August 4, 1982, Obama would no longer have dual citizenship and would only be, by his birth in Honolulu, a U.S. citizen

You're missing the point newheart. The Constitutional requirement for POTUS is for a "Natural Born" citizen. That has meaning only as of the moment of his birth. He even admits that he had Kenyan citizenship at birth, so how can Barry have been a Natural Born Citizen AT BIRTH?

By his own admission, he was a dual citizen at the time of his birth. And that time (which allegedly was August 4th, 1961) is the only time that matters in this discussion. Any act of law, renouncement, etc. affecting Barry's citizenship since the alleged date of his birth is meaningless. He is not Natural Born. Period.

192 posted on 01/06/2010 1:59:04 PM PST by thecraw (God allows evil. God allowed Barry to usurp the highest office in the land. God will not be mocked.)
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To: old curmudgeon; Electric Graffiti
"My guess is that what Beck is driving at is that you can not get a case heard and if heard, not settled for years past 2012."

No need at all for court decision (although would be good for the long term). Nixon resigned, more than a full 2 years after the Watergate scandal. When more people understand that he's a usurper, the Congress (save for the ultra left) will loose confidence in Barry (just like what happened to Nixon). Furthermore, I can't imagine the joint chiefs of staff publicly acknowledging that they are "OK" with taking orders from an Unconstitutional CinC.

IF his being a usurper is ignored or glossed over...it will set a precedent. Most clear thinkers thought it nearly impossible for such a "candidate" to be elected...yet he did with the help of the state run media, foreign money, uneducated voters, etc. If he is simply voted out...I can't imagine the possibilities of who might get elected in the future. His precedent must not be allowed to prevail.

193 posted on 01/06/2010 2:26:11 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Mears

bfl


194 posted on 01/06/2010 2:27:48 PM PST by Mears
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To: Man50D; All
HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

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195 posted on 01/06/2010 2:29:29 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Uncle Chip
Oh, sorry, I thought you were referring to the below actual account of what was definitely written by Obama's own website admitting the same thing -- that he was born a Kenyan national:

First, I'm not sure how you could possibly think that was what I was referring to in my post. Y'know, given the dozen or so references I made to Keyes, the 2004 debates, the transcripts, and the references to Pidgeon's and Kreep's comments. Versus the zero references I made to comments published on Obama's website.

Second, not to nitpick, but Obama's website didn't actually write that. They did post it on the website, but it's a quote from FactCheck.org, as evidenced by the FactCheck logo and the hyperlink to the FactCheck article directly above.

Third, you keep trying to change the subject rather than address the fact that Stephen Pidgeon put a flat-out LIE in the first paragraph of this letter of his. If you notice, Pidgeon only wrote two paragraphs about eligibility; the rest of the letter is his predictions regarding Obama's policies or his personal opinion of Obama. And smack-dab in the middle of those two eligibility paragraphs is Pidgeon citing and relying on a completely fictional incident. The man must either not check his sources and accepted this bogus rumor as truth without a modicum of factchecking, or he knows it's false and included it anyway. Take your pick.

Anything the Obama campaign quoted on a campaign website in 2008 doesn't change the fact that Steve Pidgeon has shown that he's willing to rely on imaginary incidents and make-believe evidence.

196 posted on 01/06/2010 2:40:17 PM PST by LorenC
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To: newheart
Kindly show me where, in law, the definition of natural born citizen precludes someone born to a foreign father.

The definition of "Natural Born Citizen" that requires both parents to be U.S. citizens is nothing more than a fictional device created by birthers specifically to be a standard of eligibility that Obama could not possibly meet. As such, you'll find this definition nowhere in the Constitution or any established case law.

Hence, this event:

Followed by this one:


197 posted on 01/06/2010 2:46:34 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68
The definition of "Natural Born Citizen" that requires both parents to be U.S. citizens is nothing more than a fictional device created by birthers specifically to be a standard of eligibility that Obama could not possibly meet. As such, you'll find this definition nowhere in the Constitution or any established case law.

Wishing this requirement is a "fictional device created by birthers" does not make it so, any more than a global warming alarmist - wishing the earth was heating up to further their agenda - will make it so. As you can see, we are in the midst of a brutal winter, and this issue will catch up with Barry, in time. The Truth has a nasty way of coming to light.

Nice try though...

198 posted on 01/06/2010 2:56:35 PM PST by thecraw (God allows evil. God allowed Barry to usurp the highest office in the land. God will not be mocked.)
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To: Man50D

bfl


199 posted on 01/06/2010 2:59:16 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: newheart
While we are on the topic of fallacies you might want to consider rethinking your ad hominem approach to argument.

Get used to it. When their conspiracy theories fall apart under the most cursory examinations, insults and personal attacks are the only cards they have left to play.

200 posted on 01/06/2010 3:03:31 PM PST by Drew68
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