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New Catholic mandate on comatose patients
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 1/3/10 | Bob Egelko

Posted on 01/03/2010 10:01:51 AM PST by wagglebee

The nation's Catholic hospitals, including three in the Bay Area, face a new religious mandate in the new year: to provide life-sustaining food, water and medicine to comatose patients who have no hope of recovery.

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops issued the directive Nov. 17 to the more than 1,000 church-affiliated hospitals and nursing homes in the United States and to all Catholic doctors and nurses. Invoking a 2004 speech by Pope John Paul II, the bishops said Catholics must provide nutritional assistance to patients with "presumably irreversible conditions ... who can reasonably be expected to live indefinitely if given such care."

A previous directive let Catholic hospitals and doctors decide whether the burdens on the patient outweighed the benefits of prolonging life. The bishops said the new policy was guided by "Catholic teaching against euthanasia" and by John Paul's observation that providing food and water "always represents a natural means of preserving life, not a medical act."

The directive plunges the bishops into another health care controversy, on the heels of their lobbying for tight restrictions on abortion coverage in health legislation pending in Congress.

Catholic hospital officials say the November decree isn't rigid and leaves room for accommodating patients' wishes. But the bishops' language appears to conflict with a hospital's legal duty to follow a patient's instructions to withdraw life support, as expressed in an advance written directive or by a close relative or friend who knows the patient's intentions.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholic; euthanasia; moralabsolutes; prolife
The bishops' order "fails to respect settled law that empowers patients with the right to refuse or direct the withdrawal of life-prolonging care," said Barbara Coombs Lee, president of Compassion & Choices, which advocates for the right of terminally ill patients to make life-or-death decisions.

Actually, Compassion & Choices ONLY believes in killing the elderly, sick and disabled.

1 posted on 01/03/2010 10:01:51 AM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 01/03/2010 10:02:25 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 01/03/2010 10:02:51 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 01/03/2010 10:03:14 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Enough bafflegab in the snip to fuel your refutation and illumination,if you please


5 posted on 01/03/2010 10:11:55 AM PST by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal is in Iraq.)
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6 posted on 01/03/2010 10:21:22 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: don-o; hocndoc
I don't think there's ("yet") a legal "right" to insist on being starved to death by your doctor. If the bioethics-expert/perverts do indeed have, or can get, a ruling that says starvation is a "medical treatment" and thus a "right," I don't think they can in any case require a doctor to commit murder.

Of course, neither can the hospital or nursing home keep the patient there against their will. Therefore if someone insists on death by starvation/dehydration, they'll have to get transferred from Sacred Heart Hospital to "Skinny Sam's Starvation Emporium d/b/a/Compassion and Choices" for the final wretched days.

As far as I know.

Some better-informed FReepers is invited to jump in and correct me if I'm wrong.

7 posted on 01/03/2010 10:30:34 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("The first law ...not to dare to utter a lie; the second, not to fear to speak the truth." Leo XIII)
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To: wagglebee

I’ve really had it with these Bishops. What is so hard about understanding what the Church teaches?


8 posted on 01/03/2010 10:38:50 AM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Happy New Year!)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

Huh? That’s what the bishops are doing. It’s the “Catholic” hospitals that are not.


9 posted on 01/03/2010 10:40:02 AM PST by livius
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To: Lauren BaRecall

Huh? The bishops are stating that Catholic hospitals MUST provide hydration and nutrition.


10 posted on 01/03/2010 10:40:14 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’m not sure you could order yourself starved to death, legally, anymore than you could order yourself to be sold into slavery (specifically a legal impossibility).

But have no fear, the death advocates are working on it.


11 posted on 01/03/2010 10:41:18 AM PST by livius
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To: wagglebee
The bishops' order "fails to respect settled law that empowers patients with the right to refuse or direct the withdrawal of life-prolonging care,

(sighes). Stupid ass comment. The key words here are Catholic hospitals. Catholic hospitals are supposed to follow Catholic teaching. This isn't even a change in Catholic doctrine from before. If I'm 85 years old, won't get better, and need machines to live, the decision can be made to take off life support. Nutritional assistance is not considered the same thing as life support machines.

12 posted on 01/03/2010 10:51:50 AM PST by Darren McCarty (We do what we have to do.)
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To: wagglebee

Actually, there is nothing new about this. Extraordinary means, such as a heart-lung machine, may be discontinued if there is really no hope of recovery. But ordinary means such as food, water, antibiotics, or intravenous feeding should not be discontinued as long as the patient is alive.

If the Catholic hospitals in SanFran were doing something different, then they were wrong. And possibly one of their lousy bishops in the past was wrong as well. It was clear enough in the past, except to people who were willing to misread the documents for their own agendas.


13 posted on 01/03/2010 11:51:22 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

Even ordinary means such as food and water are “refused” by the body as part of the dying process. It is sad that the hospitals have to be told to continue feeding.


14 posted on 01/03/2010 4:07:20 PM PST by RebelTXRose
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To: wagglebee

Coming from the U. S. Bishops, no less!


15 posted on 01/03/2010 8:45:31 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: wagglebee
Actually, no other denominations seem to be speaking out on this.

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16 posted on 01/03/2010 8:48:59 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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