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'Underwear Bomber's' Alarming Last Phone Call
abc news ^ | 12.31.09

Posted on 12/31/2009 1:17:20 PM PST by Perdogg

The accused "underwear bomber" made a dramatic final call to his father that he found so alarming, the father approached Nigerian officials who took him directly to the CIA's station chief in the Nigerian capital, sources told ABC News.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abdulmutallab; digg; ghana; globaljihad; obama; underwearczar; wot
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To: Red Badger

No.


41 posted on 12/31/2009 2:20:58 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Join Me In BOYCOTTING all ObamaTV!! (Change the channel or do so and then turn tv off!!))
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To: GOPJ

Religious cults exploiting lonely adolescents and young adults is nothing new. Apocalyptic cults like the Branch Devidians and the Order of the Solar Temple, Christian-based cults like the Peoples’ Temple, and Buddhist-based cults like Aum Shinrikyo Sarin and Bhaghwan Shree Ragneesh all take an accepted religion as a base to make their preachings familiar and safe-sounding. Then they use mind control techniques, including isolation, “lovebombing”, brainwashing and other coercive techniques to suck these people deep down inside a system from which deviation is punished.

I suppose if a religious cult hangs around long enough, and becomes wealthy enough, it moves to the status of a “real religion”, like the Unification Church and the Church of Scientology are doing - or at least trying to do.

When the members of a cult commit violence against themselves, like the Church of the Solar Temple and the Peoples’ Temple members did, we are horrified but ultimately don’t care. However, when the cult uses violence against others to bring about its vision of a new world, as Aum Shinrikyo did in the 1995 Tokyo subway sarin gas attack, they are very quickly attacked and usually put down via legal means.

Muslim-based cults sem to be on the increase, and they produce the most violent of these terrorists. In some cases, it’s obvious that these are “terror cults”.

But this isn’t the first time that a major Western nation has been at literal war with a murderous group of religious fanatics in the East. The British Empire did just the same thing when it fought against the Hindu cult of the Thuggees in the 19th Century. These fellows were ritualistic criminal murderers who traveled in gangs, throttling people as a blood sacrifice to the Goddess Kali.

The British took a highly specialized military approach over the century,eventually eliminating the cult. If you want more information about how they did it, you mcould start here:
http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/Indias-Thuggees-and-Islamofascism-Today.aspx

Thinking in terms of these criminal-religious mosques as “terror cults” gives a lot better understanding of how they work. They are related to Islam in general the same way that Christian Apocalyptic cults are related to Christianity. You can read about the FBI’s “Project Megiddo” to get more knowledge of violent Christian-based cults located in the US.
http://atheism.about.com/library/legal/megiddo/bl_meg_contents.htm


42 posted on 12/31/2009 2:28:28 PM PST by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: hoosiermama

Over here.


43 posted on 12/31/2009 2:36:51 PM PST by onyx
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To: rexgrossmansonlyfan

Yep. At least McCain was concerned about our number one priority - national security. Obama even makes Hillary or Bill Clinton look reasonable in comparison.


44 posted on 12/31/2009 2:52:35 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Joe Boucher

THE SYSTEM WORKED!!!!


45 posted on 12/31/2009 2:59:32 PM PST by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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To: GOPJ

People who man the suicide hotlines recognize that the profile of a suicidal person involves estrangement from family, significant others, and friends; availability of the lethal means, closure-like activities such as closing out bank accounts, giving things away for no obvious reason, and so forth. Nobody accuses suicide hotline counselors of profiling. They’re trained to do it, and while they are sometimes wrong, they are correct often enough to make the effort worthwhile.
The underwear bomber fits a certain obvious profile: He is a young islamic male; he has had contact with Imam’s who preach jihad, he often has travelled to a Moslem country where calls for jihad and all that crap is rampant or comes from one. He has no real friends. He rejects his family and his place in society, which is often middle class or better. He is travelling alone. He buys his ticket virtually at the gate. He pays cash. His ticket is one-way. He is travelling to the United States where he has no relatives, no purpose, and no particular interests. His name shows up on watch lists, etc.
All of these profile characteristics were apparent with the underwear bomber, but the one that has to do with being an Islamic young man trumps the rest. Our pathetically politically correct bunch of liberals just can’t offend these people by profiling them, no matter how many times the people fitting the aforementioned profile murder us and people fitting our profiles in the name of jihad. Innocent until proven guilty, bullshit.
That courtroom mentality doesn’t apply with respect to how a nation secures its borders. Profile, profile, profile, and don’t let anyone in who fits the terrorist profile come here at all. Why would we want to?


46 posted on 12/31/2009 3:01:33 PM PST by mathurine
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To: worst-case scenario

Whoa. Wait a minute. The People’s Temple was not Christian, any more than Jeremiah Wright’s black liberation “church” is Christian. The People’s Temple was Marxist to the core.


47 posted on 12/31/2009 3:02:07 PM PST by hellbender
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To: Perdogg

Everybody was acting with a sense of urgency EXCEPT for the top brass!!!!


48 posted on 12/31/2009 3:13:47 PM PST by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: Perdogg

This is beyond simple incompetence, this now is Dereliction of Duty with everyone.


49 posted on 12/31/2009 3:16:45 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: Perdogg

He told them “I have a Jihad in my panties.”
They thought he was kidding.


50 posted on 12/31/2009 3:18:43 PM PST by cruise_missile
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To: UCANSEE2

Hard to figure out what’s up with the animal’s ugly face.
(reminds me of Tiger Woods)


51 posted on 12/31/2009 3:19:10 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: onyx

Thanks, I looked at the thead and link when it was first posted, but there’s been a lot of additional information added. Thanks again.


52 posted on 12/31/2009 3:20:00 PM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Red Steel

There are a lot of libs in the career government civilian workforce at all DC agencies and CIA is no different. Contractors and military types are more conservative generally.


53 posted on 12/31/2009 3:20:11 PM PST by razzle
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To: hellbender

It might have been Marrxist, but it still claimed to be Christian. In Acts 4:32-35, the Apostles lifestyle is described as communal (without individual possession), and uses the phrase “distribution was made unto every man according as he had need”[6]:
“ 32. And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
33. And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
34. Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
35. And laid them down at the apostles’ feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.”

Apparently the Apostles had a bit of the communalist in them.


54 posted on 12/31/2009 3:24:10 PM PST by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: CdMGuy

Well if anyone in the CIA brought up the practice of lying to cover for their quest to rid the world of un-believers, that person would be fired for prejudice against TROP.

Bet money on it. Any analyst that has done even a cursory look at the practices of Mulsims would KNOW that nothing they say can be believed.

The homocide bomber that killed 7 CIA personnel is a testament to the dangers of political correctness.


55 posted on 12/31/2009 3:26:24 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: mathurine

And kick out those who are here... starting with CAIR officials.


56 posted on 12/31/2009 3:26:24 PM PST by AliVeritas (Is it nothing to you all ye who pass by? Our brothers blood screams from the ground.)
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To: FReepaholic

Great!!! Post of the day,week,month and possibly the year.


57 posted on 12/31/2009 3:26:55 PM PST by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: hoosiermama

This article has the most information I’ve come across thus far.


58 posted on 12/31/2009 3:30:25 PM PST by onyx
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To: F15Eagle


59 posted on 12/31/2009 3:35:48 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: Grampa Dave

She looks better as Baghdad Bob than Bob did.


60 posted on 12/31/2009 3:38:23 PM PST by csvset
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