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Apology to Native Peoples (contained in defense bill)
Defense Appropriations Bill ^ | December 16, 2009 | Congress

Posted on 12/24/2009 2:32:49 PM PST by BruceS

apology to native peoples of the united states

Sec. 8113. (a) Acknowledgment and Apology- The United States, acting through Congress--

(1) recognizes the special legal and political relationship Indian tribes have with the United States and the solemn covenant with the land we share;

(2) commends and honors Native Peoples for the thousands of years that they have stewarded and protected this land;

(3) recognizes that there have been years of official depredations, ill-conceived policies, and the breaking of covenants by the Federal Government regarding Indian tribes;

(4) apologizes on behalf of the people of the United States to all Native Peoples for the many instances of violence, maltreatment, and neglect inflicted on Native Peoples by citizens of the United States;

(5) expresses its regret for the ramifications of former wrongs and its commitment to build on the positive relationships of the past and present to move toward a brighter future where all the people of this land live reconciled as brothers and sisters, and harmoniously steward and protect this land together;

(6) urges the President to acknowledge the wrongs of the United States against Indian tribes in the history of the United States in order to bring healing to this land; and

(7) commends the State governments that have begun reconciliation efforts with recognized Indian tribes located in their boundaries and encourages all State governments similarly to work toward reconciling relationships with Indian tribes within their boundaries.

(b) Disclaimer- Nothing in this section--

(1) authorizes or supports any claim against the United States; or

(2) serves as a settlement of any claim against the United States.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; americanindians; apology; bho44; indians; nativeamerican
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To: Tzimisce
Someone did it, right? Who was it? I’m not a historian but I believe it was White Men. (except for some Mexicans)
Yeah, it was pioneer early American white men. Are you related to them in any way? No, you didn’t pull the trigger but it is in your blood and on top of that you condone it by denial. I bet you see NO connection what so ever.
21 posted on 12/24/2009 2:54:44 PM PST by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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To: BruceS

“(6) urges the President to acknowledge the wrongs of the United States against Indian tribes in the history of the United States in order to bring healing to this land; and”

Sorry....the best way to do that would be to stop this nonsense....treat everyone as AMERICANS, equally! No more ‘nation within a nation’ nonsense. The people who were persecuted are all DEAD! DEAD! DEAD! The persecutors are dead....it is HISTORY.

How long do we, the innocent, continue to pay for crimes committed generations ago???? Evidently a while longer!


22 posted on 12/24/2009 2:58:32 PM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: NativeSon

” who’s sorry for what? how about the current gub’mint apologize for stealing my friggin’ money, trashing our way of life, destroying our culture and creating generation of useless beggars?

Just one American’s opinion... that happens to be AI “

Agreed!!! From another AI. We ARE the current indigenous tribe!


23 posted on 12/24/2009 3:00:19 PM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: NativeSon

Well, a little bit too late. The Indian nations suffered what has often happened to other peoples, they were conquered, and badly treated by the conquerors. Indeed, it can be said that they were worst treated than the African slaves. Still, that was a long time and those who suffered injustice are long since dead, they and even their grandchildren. No apology by Congress can raise the dead.


24 posted on 12/24/2009 3:00:29 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: AuntB
How long do we, the innocent, continue to pay for crimes committed generations ago?????

For as long as politicians can use it as a way to buy votes, and minorities can use it as a way to buy favors.

25 posted on 12/24/2009 3:00:58 PM PST by airborne (HAPPY BIRTHDAY JESUS !!!!!!!!!)
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To: airborne

“For as long as politicians can use it as a way to buy votes, and minorities can use it as a way to buy favors.”

You are so right. The exact thing that started the mess in the first place.


26 posted on 12/24/2009 3:03:29 PM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: fish hawk

Following your logic, do I get reparations from the English owing to the Potato Famine? Let it go and be at peace.


27 posted on 12/24/2009 3:04:49 PM PST by T bench ("God wills it." Urban II)
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To: BruceS
(6) urges the President to acknowledge the wrongs of the United States

That is the operative language, and the central theme of this America-hating Usurper and his gang of self-loathing cronies. They are DESPICABLE, the whole bunch of 'em!
28 posted on 12/24/2009 3:07:20 PM PST by Canedawg (Merry Christmas)
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To: RobbyS
Well, a little bit too late. The Indian nations suffered what has often happened to other peoples, they were conquered, and badly treated by the conquerors.

And in many cases the indians were doing it themselves. Sacajawea of Lewis and Clarek fame is a beautiful example. Her original tribe was slaughtered by another and she was captured as a slave. I may be mistaken but I believe she then ended up being captured by a 3rd tribe before being sold to Toussaint Charbonneau.
29 posted on 12/24/2009 3:11:59 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cripplecreek

The reason they “stewarded” the land (this was written by an illiterate), is that they did not have a material culture or the tools to do anything else. They simply did not have, nor were they in the process of developing, the ability to manipulate their surroundings to any significant extent. The natives, especially in North America, were living their short and brutish lives in a late Stone Age culture, using their women as pack animals and fighting and killing off each other on every occasion. They hunted numerous species to extinction long before Europeans arrived. The language in that bill is a joke, and it sounds like it was written by a committee of 8th graders.


30 posted on 12/24/2009 3:13:11 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: cripplecreek

Correct.

Is there anybody who sees any value whatsoever in paying a native people not to assimilate?

I am part “Indian” myself, probably most Americans are.

Keepers of the land?! Have any of you been to SE Alaska and seen the huge clearcuts up here? A large portion of these logged areas are “Native” lands, and you know what? more power to them, then can log it or conserve it whatever they want to do. The point is, they don’t really give a d@amn about the land.

Europeans were a stronger race of people, with more advanced weaponry, and superior numbers. It was a war for dominance, what don’t people understand about that?

I am tired of the Federal Government continuing to help “Natives” feel sorry for themselves. Get a life!


31 posted on 12/24/2009 3:16:21 PM PST by gettinolder (Smashed lips save ships.)
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To: BruceS

Unless it refers to all people born here, there’s no other legitimate definition of “native people.” Indians migrated here just like everyone else, and DNA proves it. They can take the “native American” appellation and stuff it.


32 posted on 12/24/2009 3:19:35 PM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: gettinolder

I believe there are far more Navajo and related tribes than there ever were. They were quick to adapt to the more modern farming and ranching and it paid off for them in a big way.


33 posted on 12/24/2009 3:21:08 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: BruceS

**Now we are sorry for all the bad things we have done to the American Indians.***

Should we apologize to the smaller tribes (Otoe, Mandan, Poncas) who sided with the US for protection against the large bullying tribes around them?

Should we apologize to the Sioux and Cheyenne for geting in the way of their destructive wars against the friendly Crow and Pawnee tribes?

Should we apologize to the Zunis for thrashing their enemies the Comanches and Apaches thus allowing the pueblo tribes to live without fear of the plains raiders?

Should we appologize to the Apaches and Comanches for getting in the way of them slaughtering each other when not slaughtering the Zunis?

What a can of worms!


34 posted on 12/24/2009 3:21:35 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Are my guns loaded? Break in and find out.)
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To: fish hawk

So what you’re saying is, that you can held accountable for the actions of your ancestors?

Okay - well, the Natives killed lots of innocent people. Some tribes took pride in killing innocent people. Some tribes would scalp and butcher people who couldn’t defend themselves.

So I guess the Natives need to do some apologizing of their own.

There are fewer Natives in the US than there are white people - which means the Natives living today are much more accountable than whites living today.

(Oh, well there were innocent peaceful tribes....)

There were innocent peaceful whites too. But you’re holding them all accountable.

And btw - my father’s side of the family came to the US in the 1930s.

So remember the lesson: judging people by race and ethnicity is only okay if the people you’re judging are white.

Why don’t you take your smug little racist ideas and shove them where the sun doesn’t shine?


35 posted on 12/24/2009 3:22:48 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: BruceS

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36 posted on 12/24/2009 3:23:01 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream.)
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To: BruceS

It makes the indians sound like glorified forest rangers.


37 posted on 12/24/2009 3:24:15 PM PST by x_plus_one (Even the Russian online newspaper Pravda featured a column about "the man with no visible past.")
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To: cripplecreek

***I believe there are far more Navajo and related tribes than there ever were.***

Back at the time of the “long Walk” which was more of a long stroll when compared to the “Trail of Tears”, there were probbly no more than about twenty thousand Navajos in the world. Today there are over two hubdred and fifty thousand or more.

And the government will probably have to apologize to the next generation, and next, and next, and so on.

I wonder how many of them could ever go back and live as their pre-colombian ancestors did.


38 posted on 12/24/2009 3:30:16 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Are my guns loaded? Break in and find out.)
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To: cripplecreek

Yes,

And the stupid crazy horse thing about it is that the Navajo have been “Keepers of the land” and recently have gone separate ways from the environmental movement (why? because they want to mine their own coal...ha! what a joke!)

http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2009/09/coal_conflict_hopi_navajo_trib.html (Coal conflict: Hopi, Navajo tribes say environmentalists not welcome on reservations)

Basically what I read is the Indians are perceived by the disillusioned greenie do-gooder libs as being environmentally friendly. And now we see the indians kicking the environmentalists off their “Sacred Mother Earth Happy Hunting Grounds” so they can mine coal!


39 posted on 12/24/2009 3:40:13 PM PST by gettinolder (Smashed lips save ships.)
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To: cripplecreek

Well, of course the indians warred among themselves. But Europeans were so much better at it than they were. A lesson for your liberal friends: in this world.the strong eat the weak. They should rent the Time Machine, the good one with Rod Taylor.


40 posted on 12/24/2009 3:43:24 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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