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The Weekly Standard ^ | 28 Dec 2009 | John Podhoretz

Posted on 12/21/2009 1:27:57 PM PST by AreaMan

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To: AreaMan

Great review. I have not the slightest inclination to see this piece of ****. And I’m an SF fan, too!

But unfortunately, it seems to have done very well at the box office, despite Podhoretz’s sensible take on it.

$77 million for the opening weekend, and that was probably down a bit because of the weather. Not record setting, but pretty certainly well enough to make a good profit. Ugh.

http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/first-word-avatar-midnights-only-3-million-even-with-higher-3d-ticket-prices-hollywood-now-predicting-85m-weekend/


21 posted on 12/21/2009 1:51:23 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: brownsfan

Haven’t seen the movie. I can’t remember where I saw the reference - not original with me - but someone nicknamed the movie Dances with Smurfs. Says it all. Probably spent almost as much time, money and film as Costner did.


22 posted on 12/21/2009 1:52:03 PM PST by RedElement
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To: org.whodat
All art has, and pushes, a world view.

Ignore this at your own (and our collective) peril.

23 posted on 12/21/2009 1:52:10 PM PST by AreaMan
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To: AreaMan

The producer doesn’t want you to think so critically! You’re supposed to sit there and be entertained, while you put your critical thinking on hold and allow the “anti-White” / “America is an imperialist” thoughts to slip into your subconscious.


24 posted on 12/21/2009 1:52:17 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: AreaMan

I don’t really care what the symbolism is in this movie - it’s a great movie. Very enjoyable and a monumental achievement in filmmaking. Any movie like this is going to be examined for what analogies it supposedly attempts to make - think of Star Wars and all of the comparisons of the Empire and the Rebels to various political groups. However, taken as what it is - a movie - Avatar is fantastic.

At the end, I made sure to explain to my son that the portion of the movie that dealt with the mother tree/life force was all bogus. My brother did the same with his 9 and 6 year old girls (who also LOVED the movie, by the way).


25 posted on 12/21/2009 1:53:33 PM PST by RightFighter (Sarah Palin - we love you and can't wait to see you again.)
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To: AppyPappy

I’m the same way. I can watch anything without getting too upset about politics.


26 posted on 12/21/2009 1:54:13 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: AreaMan

Kind of sounds like Fern Gully for adults to me.


27 posted on 12/21/2009 1:56:02 PM PST by the long march
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To: AreaMan

That’s correct actually. But what do you think one should do in response? Not read Shakespeare because you aren’t a Monarchist and so forth?


28 posted on 12/21/2009 1:56:16 PM PST by Borges
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To: AreaMan

MAN is in the forest...


29 posted on 12/21/2009 1:56:35 PM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: AreaMan

Just one more anti-American Hollywood product I won’t be supporting with my dollars.


30 posted on 12/21/2009 1:58:22 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Socialism is hip until somebody loses a paycheck)
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To: SeaDragon
Oy, the suffering that ensues, all for some lousy unobtainium!

That unfortunate and deliberate choice of name, will live in infamy!

LOL, ouch.

31 posted on 12/21/2009 1:58:54 PM PST by RikaStrom (Pray for Obama - Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his place of leadership.")
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To: AreaMan

Oh yeah, that fiber optic hair plug was a laugher, but I really liked those mechs.

I’m hoping they make a Mechwarrior movie, they could base it off of a game or the multitude of novels out there.

I would love to see a movie about Mechwarrior mercenaries hopping from planet to planet getting into and causing wars.


32 posted on 12/21/2009 1:58:54 PM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: cripplecreek
I just finished watching Gran Torino for the first time today.,

That movie was a gem. For every 100 movies that come out of Hollywood, there IMHO is only one worth watching (spending our valuable time) and remembering long after we've seen it (in a good way).

33 posted on 12/21/2009 1:59:03 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: brownsfan
One reviewer called it "Dances With ThunderSmurfs".

+ + =

34 posted on 12/21/2009 1:59:56 PM PST by Dr. Thorne (Buy Gold and Guns Now!)
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To: AreaMan

LOL, aways has, and always will, that is why they call it fiction.


35 posted on 12/21/2009 2:01:13 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: cripplecreek

Interesting end, huh?


36 posted on 12/21/2009 2:02:06 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: Travis McGee
Showed my four year old grandson the helicopter assault scene from Apocalypse Now during yesterday's snow storm, before the kick off of the Pats game. He picked up his plastic toy soldiers and huddled them in an inverted toy parachute that came with his Apache model as the loud speakers blared the Flight of the Valkyrie. Colonel Kilgore would have cried for joy.

When my grandson is twenty no one will be watching Avatar and Apocalypse Now will still be compelling.

37 posted on 12/21/2009 2:02:06 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The CRU needs adult supervision.)
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To: RightFighter
True, technically it is a marvel and visually stunning but that's not all there is to this movie.

Star Wars had all kinds of hokey new-age/quasi-Buddhist themes but they were not the message of the movie.

In fact most of the sci-fi critics that hated Star Wars was because it was fluff and mindless or a space opera, pretty much that it had no message and was just entertainment.

Yes, all art pushes a world view but this one pushes it HARD and without subtlety. The message is what Mr. Podhoretz and others clearly see on the screen and in the story.

38 posted on 12/21/2009 2:03:30 PM PST by AreaMan
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To: AppyPappy

Actually the liberal guy in my office said the technology was mindblowing, but the story was old and worn. I was pretty surprised he went that way on the story.


39 posted on 12/21/2009 2:05:40 PM PST by RikaStrom (Pray for Obama - Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his place of leadership.")
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To: AreaMan

“What they didn’t tell us is that Avatar is blitheringly stupid; indeed, it’s among the dumbest movies I’ve ever seen. Avatar is an undigested mass of clichés nearly three hours in length taken directly from the revisionist westerns of the 1960s-the ones in which the Indians became the good guys and the Americans the bad guys. Only here the West is a planet called Pandora, the time is the 22nd century rather than the 19th, and the Indians have blue skin and tails, and are 10 feet tall.”

I’m going to see it for the visuals only, but my God this is the weakest plots I’ve ever seen! And the acting in the trailer would make Jar Jar Binks blush!

And Pandora? What the hell type of amateur sci-fi writer name for a planet is that?


40 posted on 12/21/2009 2:06:05 PM PST by VanDeKoik (Iran doesnt have a 2nd admendment. Ya see how that turned out?)
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