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What do we do if Deathcare passes?

Posted on 12/18/2009 10:59:19 AM PST by hdbc

If this nightmare passes, what Alinsky, civil disobedience tactics can we use to overturn it? Voting these creeps out is only part of the solution. Even if we took control of congress in 2010, we would need a veto proof majority to overturn it. Unlikely, I suspect. We need to do what the libtards do when they want to undermine something. Any ideas out there?


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To: hdbc
Mass, coordinated revolt:

NOBODY SIGNS UP FOR IT, NOBODY BUYS IT, LET 'EM JAIL A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND OF US.

;-/

21 posted on 12/18/2009 11:16:08 AM PST by Gargantua (Appropriate that the re-birth of our great nation be delivered by a woman.)
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To: hdbc
If it passes, Republicans run in 2010 on Deathcare's complete and utter rescission, the slogan being:

Like it never even happened.

The Republican's capture the House, they capture the purse strings. They don't spend, then nobody spends. If Obama doesn't sign the rescission, then his Government is starved until it relents.

22 posted on 12/18/2009 11:16:25 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: manonCANAL

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2409945/posts?...


23 posted on 12/18/2009 11:16:45 AM PST by manonCANAL
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To: Plutarch

LOVE IT!!!


24 posted on 12/18/2009 11:19:09 AM PST by GOPsterinMA ("Henceforth, you shall be known as...'Nobel Obama'".)
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To: hdbc

RESIST.


25 posted on 12/18/2009 11:20:36 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: hdbc

stand on principal and refuse to pay for the mandated policy (though with a little bad luck you might find Keith Olbermann is your cellmate)


26 posted on 12/18/2009 11:20:50 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

principal = principle

(standing on principal just gets you reams of detention)


27 posted on 12/18/2009 11:21:59 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: hdbc

1) Civil Disobedience for Healthcare “Mandates” (Taxes)- Then when a large number of people have been incarcerated and fined for this DEMAND a mass pardon!

2) Don’t pay your taxes? (Risky, but are YOU willing to do it)!?

3) Turn to the states to “opt out” it’s citizens from the consequences (and paying) for Obamacare.

4) Make sure there is a majority to repeal it.

5) (Highly unlikely) but seek to overturn it in the Courts.

6) Move?


28 posted on 12/18/2009 11:24:56 AM PST by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: hdbc

How about using a right wing Rhambo move of finding some dirt (old, new, Tiger Woods-style) stuff on a Democrat?

How about an affair, liason, corruption, bribery, pay-for-play, campaign doner fraud, Mob/union/Greenie ties...

Can we dig up anything, or if we did, would the State-run media spin, ignore or deny any investigation anyway?


29 posted on 12/18/2009 11:26:59 AM PST by wac3rd (Felipe Calderon supports the public option.)
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To: hdbc
Well,for starters, if I have to apply for insurance I'm going to apply for a LOT of insurance under hundreds of phony names, addresses and SS#'s. The goal of which is gum up the works so bad, the government can't figure out who has a policy and who doesn't. Imagine if 100,000 people filed 100 phony applications each....

Even though I've always had health insurance I'm going to stage some minor civil disobedience and "redact" the part of the 1040 that requires me to inform the government about my insurance status. I'm going to bold out the entire section with a big black marker and write ---REDACTED---REFUSE TO ANSWER---UNCONSTITOUTIONAL---. This will serve the purpose of screwing up the IRS's machines autoscan functions the large black box will cause the return to be kicked out and it will have to be entered by hand, making a LOT of extra work and also making sure someone sees what is written(imagine if 1,000,000 people did that). And No, I am NOT afraid of IRS, I pay all my taxes and I will have insurance so let them audit me, they'll waste even more money on that...

30 posted on 12/18/2009 11:40:47 AM PST by apillar
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To: Marylander

We will have to save up our money to go to overseas for what we used to get right here in the comfort of our own country.

Well, won’t that be an interesting “change”.


31 posted on 12/18/2009 11:43:53 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: netmilsmom

Don’t worry or fear - the Death cult will make sure there is a civilized way to put you down - Soylent Green showed it very well: Hemlock centers where people could go to die very quietly and then on to the factory for further “processing.”

Or you can have the “home option” where hospice nurses will come and give you a lethal dose of morphine. No problemo...


32 posted on 12/18/2009 11:45:54 AM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Gargantua
Mass, coordinated revolt: NOBODY SIGNS UP FOR IT

180° wrong - If few sign up an all pay, it will be declared a huge success because the program does not cost what it was projected.

INSTEAD we should all sign up for it and USE IT. Use it in copius amounts. Every ache, pain and phantom malody should be tended to. Healthcare has been declared your RIGHT and no one can deny you. Get a second and third opinion on every diagnosis. Demand the attention that you deserve.

Crush the program with its own weight.

33 posted on 12/18/2009 11:46:07 AM PST by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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To: netmilsmom

I have thought of this very scenario....drive to any inner city area, and purchase heroin...if I cannot get pain relief legally, then it will have to be done illegally. I would refuse to live in pain when pain relief is readily available, legal or not


34 posted on 12/18/2009 11:47:06 AM PST by joe fonebone (I am racist, hear me roar....I don't give a crap anymore....)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
Even if we took control of congress in 2010, we would need a veto proof majority to overturn it.

If enough dems are ousted, maybe we can convince some other dems of the error of their ways and kill it.

35 posted on 12/18/2009 11:48:39 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: hdbc

Start the lawsuits. With some good lawyering this thing could be tied up in court until Canada get’s rid of theirs, then it’ll be really easy to overturn it in Congress.


36 posted on 12/18/2009 11:48:46 AM PST by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
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To: hdbc
Cancel your health insurance and pay the fine. If you get sick later, then you can sign up for coverage. There will be no pre-existing condition qualification and you won't pay a dime more than some healthy marathon runner.

Of course if everyone did this, the new health care system would collapse in a matter of months..... :-)

37 posted on 12/18/2009 11:50:35 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Sioux-san

or the old standby, build these buildings, tell people they are going in to take a shower then..............


38 posted on 12/18/2009 11:52:09 AM PST by Two-Bits (Love Freedom? Hate Tyranny? Always fly the United States of America flag)
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To: hdbc

How many of the sheeple will suddenly get some courage and resist unjust actions by their government?

My guess is .001%


39 posted on 12/18/2009 12:02:01 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: hdbc

As a former leftist, let me list the ways:

Pack the clinics and have a sit-down protest.

Create lots of video imagery mocking the health care situation, and don’t spare exagerration, hyperbole, and outright misstatements of fact. The left uses this tactic often; turn it against them. Overwhelm their ability to critique what we’re doing by flooding the system.

Select those who support this action and target them, run opposition research, use thier own values against them (Sen. X used a private clinic for his skin cancer removal!!!), and be unrelenting.

Remember that our goal is the destruction of the left, just as their stated goal is the destruction of the right (which they call “bourgeoise values”). Be unrelenting in that goal. The left has literally worked on a scale of decades, if not centuries; they pioneered the idea of the “long walk through the institutions.” We can do the same thing, quietly hiring our own in academia, the media, and government, until we attain positions of influence.

Always take the offensive.

Use humor against the opposition.

Hey, I gotta go back to work. Just read Alinsky and apply his rules to conservative values and goals. Those rules don’t belong to any single ideology. As the left will discover to its discontent.


40 posted on 12/18/2009 12:03:19 PM PST by redpoll
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