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Holdout senator rejects abortion compromise (Ben Nelson)
Houston Comical ^ | 12/17/09 | crAP

Posted on 12/17/2009 9:32:37 AM PST by Ravi

WASHINGTON — Nebraska Sen. Ben Nelson — the moderate Democrat whose opposition is holding up the Senate's health care bill — says new language on abortion doesn't satisfy his concerns.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; benedictarnoldnelson; benedictnelson; bennelson; benodictarnoldnelson; benodictnelson; bhoabortion; healthcare; nebraskawhore; nelson; obama
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To: Col Frank Slade

Its starting to get really interesting. Tom Osborne you fixed Nebraska Football please run for Senate.


21 posted on 12/17/2009 10:19:10 AM PST by scooby321
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To: scooby321

It sure is. Unions are balking at it and the Koz kooks are all out to kill it now.

The Healthcare Bill everyone hates.


22 posted on 12/17/2009 10:21:15 AM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: Col Frank Slade
Perhaps Harry and Nancy will have coronaries......
23 posted on 12/17/2009 10:25:14 AM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: Col Frank Slade

For sure...


24 posted on 12/17/2009 10:25:53 AM PST by b4its2late (Before you can control a horse, you have to break it. Sound familiar?)
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To: Col Frank Slade
The more the Dems water this down to woo Lieberman, Nelson, Sanders etc, the more pissed off the House moonbats are getting.
Can you imagine the catfights when this bill goes into reconsiliation commitees ?
They will rip their eyes out to pass “something”.

After reconciliation, they need only 50 votes to pass a final result (vs. 60 now to shut down a GOP filibuster). I don't think you can filibuster a reconciliation bill.

25 posted on 12/17/2009 10:30:55 AM PST by CedarDave (FOX news:"Fair and balanced (no matter what the White House says) . We report because others won't.")
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To: Ravi

Well now that his bribe of a military base has leaked out Nelson has some ground to stand on and they can’t touch him.


26 posted on 12/17/2009 10:32:25 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: GOPsterinMA

Liebermann would be the ultimate rino. Not as leftist as spectre tho’


27 posted on 12/17/2009 10:33:02 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: Ravi

Three cheers. I know the RTL organizations were saying this morning that it was a fake compromise. Either he really cares about the right to life, or he knows his constituents won’t support a vote for abortion.


28 posted on 12/17/2009 10:33:29 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: CedarDave

“After reconciliation, they”

utterly change the basis of the American economy and way of life on reconciliation?

Hopefully that would be the end of the dems.


29 posted on 12/17/2009 10:35:22 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Top progressives are attacking the health-reform plan moving through the Senate as “hollow,” “unsupportable” and a sellout to corporate interests.

Republicans, after plotting for months to sink the signature legislation of Obama’s first year, suddenly think that Democrats might wind up doing it for them.

Most dangerously for White House chances of assembling 60 Senate votes, former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean launched a third day of attacks on the emerging bill, arguing in a Washington Post op-ed that it meets none of his benchmarks for “real reform.”

“As it stands, this bill would do more harm than good to the future of America,” Dean wrote, then took to the airwaves to amplify his case.

Ed Schultz, an influential liberal radio host, declared on his “Ed Show” on MSNBC: “The base is restless. They are wandering in the wilderness, Mr. President. … They want to know, where are you? … Right now, Mr. President, your base thinks you’re nothing but a sellout — a corporate sellout, out that. … The only people who like this current bill right now, Mr. President, is the insurance industry — they get a bunch of new customers.”

Markos Moulitsas, founder of Daily Kos, wrote on his Twitter feed: “Time to kill this monstrosity coming out of the Senate.” And “Kos” blogged: “You pass a s——-y program now that further bankrupts our nation, and we won’t be talking about ‘fixing’ it in a few years, but whether it should even exist.”

With polls showing erosion in both Obama’s popularity and in support for health reform, the White House mobilized to try to tamp down the rebellion from such essential allies.

Senior adviser David Axelrod called in to MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” to argue that Dean’s criticisms are “predicated on a bunch of erroneous conclusions.”

“To defeat a bill that will bend the curve on this inexorable rise in health-care costs is insane,” Axelrod said. “I think that would be a tragic, tragic outcome. I don’t think that you want this moment to pass. It will not come back.”

Liberals contend that the bill has been watered down so much that Congress should kill it and start over. The White House warns that health reform could be doomed for the rest of this presidency, and probably beyond, if it falters now.

The attack from the left comes at a delicate juncture when a delay of more than a couple of days could sink any remaining chance that the Senate can pass it by Christmas. Senate Democrats are circulating a possible schedule that would have them taking the final vote on Christmas Day.

Right now, Democrats are at least two votes shy of the 60 they need to pass the bill, with liberal Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) saying he has not committed to vote for the bill in its current form.


30 posted on 12/17/2009 10:36:13 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Col Frank Slade
You're right he's no fool. Just look at these 2008 county-by-county election results:

There's hardly any "blue" in Nebraska -- which is why Ben Nelson often has a higher ACU rating than some Republicans.

31 posted on 12/17/2009 10:46:13 AM PST by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

True, but in this case, the ends justifies the means, which is to stop the govt. takeover of 1/6 of our economy and untimately deciding who lives or dies.


32 posted on 12/17/2009 10:57:27 AM PST by GOPsterinMA ("Henceforth, you shall be known as...'Nobel Obama'".)
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To: GOPsterinMA
GWB made sure Mike Johanns didn’t run against Nelson back in 2006. Johanns was appointed U.S. Secretary of Agriculture, assuring Nelson re-election.

Bad mistake. The dems & media pick off the pubies one at a time and soon most are gone.

33 posted on 12/17/2009 11:11:06 AM PST by Western Phil
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To: Ravi

The Left/DailypsyKOSis, Screamin’ Howard, are all against passage. This is likely the kiss of death. Watching Reid’s face is the best Christmas present I’ve ever received.


34 posted on 12/17/2009 11:13:49 AM PST by pabianice
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To: Alberta's Child

Yes. Red states flushed with health and vitality. Blue states already darkly necrotic with rot.


35 posted on 12/17/2009 11:15:43 AM PST by pabianice
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To: GOPsterinMA

That will upset Freeper purists / sarc


36 posted on 12/17/2009 11:16:34 AM PST by chargers fan
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To: Alberta's Child

I can’t believe Saline county went for O. Must be the illegals working in the meat plant.


37 posted on 12/17/2009 11:21:07 AM PST by Western Phil
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To: chargers fan

Ooops! Sometimes in life you gotta do what must be done.


38 posted on 12/17/2009 11:23:14 AM PST by GOPsterinMA ("Henceforth, you shall be known as...'Nobel Obama'".)
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To: autumnraine

you will only see those two stories side by side on FR.

At least FIRST on FR... CNN, PMSNBC, and the alphabets have to be dragged kicking and screaming.


39 posted on 12/17/2009 11:26:10 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Western Phil

Right. Look at Ted Kennedy and Bob Packwood. One’s a killer, the other MAY have made a pass or three at women while intoxicated or not. Ted got re-elected every 6 years, like clockwork, while Packwood was demonized like he was the second coming of Adolf Hitler. Not to say Packwood was a saint, he’s not, but WTF? Double standard anyone?


40 posted on 12/17/2009 11:26:49 AM PST by GOPsterinMA ("Henceforth, you shall be known as...'Nobel Obama'".)
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