Something like this is still on my wish list. I don't want to be loaded down with a lot of extras but I do want to have a breacher nozzle. And I'd probably add a sling and some kind of holder for extra rounds.
Posted on 12/16/2009 10:08:01 AM PST by bonillamktg
I am ashamed to say that I am 30 years old and do not own a gun. I grew up in a house without guns and never really thought about it until recently (as I started a drastic shift from being politically agnostic to a staunch conservative Constitutionalist) and now I am a new homeowner and new father and every day I think about needing to get multiple firearms. I need to start somewhere but, other than getting recommendations from a few friends I respect, I am a bit lost, having never fired a handgun before (I've shot several rifles and shotguns before).
My question is: What recommendation would you give me as the first gun I should own? I want this first gun to be easily carried concealed (I plan on getting my concealed carry permit ASAP), a good weapon for protection of my home, easily usable by my wife (who has never shot a gun in her life), and ideally, I'd like to get armed for $300-400.
yep :-) can´t wait to hold it in my hands... and of course to fire it for the first time ;-) i hope this will let me forget what i have paid for this “baby”. 2100 euro “a little more than 3.000 $” (without scope does really burn a big hole into my pocket this month). but then again i wanted this rifle since years...
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They're a real bitch when the alarm goes off.
Whatever you choose, buy ammo. Lots of it. And availability may(should) influence what you buy.
you definitely made the right choice! as most people have allready said a shotgun is just perfect for home defence! the next good Idea was to “ increase my budget” because you should not make your life dependet on a few hundred $.
you are on the right way.
enjoy your new hobby and have fun.
I´m shure you will soon find your “personal” gun which fits just perfect for your individual CCW needs.
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I looked up Condition Zero and most of the hits refer to a video game. Does it have some other meaning?
A friend has a 6 inch model 66, I have a model 19. His shoots better than mine. Great choice.
I think round in chamber, hammer cocked and no safety...
He might wanna get one while the gettin's good.
i do agree. btw. training is one thing but a real firefight
is something totally different. it´s one thing to fire at “paper” targets... but it´s totally different when you are in a situation when you hear the unique sound a bullet fired into your direction makes (if you hear it because it sometimes happens that you hear no sound because your body runs on “emergency” mode in a life or death situation.
that may well be true..but they armorers on staff. Ive just got me.
Something like this is still on my wish list. I don't want to be loaded down with a lot of extras but I do want to have a breacher nozzle. And I'd probably add a sling and some kind of holder for extra rounds.
oh i would love to own a pump action again!!! but unfortunately they are now illegal here (thanks to stupid politicians) so i´m stuck with the semi auto shotguns here (they are not as “dangerous” if you believe politicians ;-) like the pump actions...) weird politicians weird laws ;-)
Agreed. Hate to advocate banditry, but a shotgun will get you a handgun.
Condition Zero means one in the chamber and safety off.
Nobody would ever recommend or carry a 1911 like this, yet Glocks have no Condition 1 (Chambered with safety on).....as such, Glocks can only be carried in Condition Zero.
For a war zone this is fine.....for the local mall? Not for me.
JMHO
FYI:
Cooper favored the Colt M1911 and its variants. There are several conditions of readiness in which such a weapon can be carried. Cooper promulgated most of the following terms:
Condition Four: Chamber empty, no magazine, hammer down.
Condition Three: Chamber empty, full magazine in place, hammer down.
Condition Two: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer down.
Condition One: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer cocked, safety on.
Condition Zero: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer cocked, safety off.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Cooper_(Marine)
This is only imo, but a nice .38 snub nose revolver or a 9mm would be great for ‘in home’ protection. You can graduate to rifles once familiar with the pistol. Go to the range to practice.....a shotgun is also a great model if you want to be sure to hit an intruder without really having to take ‘aim’. Get a higher gauge shot gun, so the ‘kick’ is less. Like I said this is my opinion only.
That IS strange. Is it because of their appearance, or just what is the reasoning? Shotguns are mostly off the gun control radar here but there has been noise made about certain types of semiautomatics.
We can actually buy some 14" barrel pump guns with a relatively low NFA tax but I'm not convinced I'd need or use one enough to justify registering a piece in my name. In the state where I live there is no registration or licensing for anything but NFA weapons (full autos and things like short barrel shotguns) and I'm happy so far to stick with unregistered firearms.
I found the Glock 19 fun to shoot, but the Walther P99 fit my hand much better. I have small hands, and the thickness of the grip on the Glocks never quite fit my hand. My impressions of both were they were very reliable.
The one that stays beside me for home defense and CC though is the H&K P7M8. It is heavy, which is really noticeable while carrying, but I have 100% faith in its design and safety and I have never had a problem with it since I bought it. It's more of a radical departure from typical semi-automatics though. I mention it since I don't recall seeing it up-thread.
Bottom line, get something that fits and that you feel comfortable with. By fit I don't just mean it feels good in the hand and you can reach the trigger. You should also make sure that you can reach and use all controls, if any. Practice, practice, practice. I used to have a Walther PPK/S which fit my hand really well but would bite me on the webbing of my hand (between thumb and index finger) whenever the action would cycle. That wasn't fun to shoot.
If you have a local range where you can rent pistols to try, I would recommend that. Even better if you have a friend with a few pistols or a local club which has introduction nights.
Keep an open mind. There are many variations of semi-automatics, revolvers, shotguns out there. While the basics are the same, many of their control levers and functional components are placed differently. It may be a revolver fits your needs better, it could be a shotgun. Best to take the time to find the one that fits well.
My P-99 is the most ergonomic handgun.
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