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Rasmussen: Tea Party Tops GOP on Three-Way Generic Ballot
Rasmussen ^ | Dec 07, 2009

Posted on 12/07/2009 5:44:38 AM PST by TomGuy

In a three-way Generic Ballot test, the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds Democrats attracting 36% of the vote. The Tea Party candidate picks up 23%, and Republicans finish third at 18%. Another 22% are undecided.

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To: sam_paine
Do you do this when your dog craps on the carpet? Argue with the wife about whose fault it is?

Failed analogy, as your own solution -- essentially, to continue rewarding said dog for repeatedly soiling things -- is a hopelessly addled, demonstrably counterintuitive one.

Again: I asked you to "think hard" on the inevitable end result of any political party routinely treating its actual voting base with open, sneering contempt. Until you have done so -- and "you," here, should be read as meaning "the Republican party heirarchy," obviously -- then Obama's malignant brand of socialism/Marxism is guaranteed another four years, come '12.

None of this is rocket science, really.

81 posted on 12/07/2009 6:56:02 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I care about which ideology rules the roost. If it’s the ideology embraced by the current Republican party (in fact if not rhetoric) then what’s the difference being different if the difference is the same?


82 posted on 12/07/2009 6:56:56 AM PST by DManA
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To: Williams

However, the poll also shows that splitting off as a third party puts democrats in power. So let’s not get too cocky.
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Yes indeed. Let’s remain wise about this whole matter. Challenge and eject RINOs, force the GOP into the Tea Party’s hands and then run hard against the socialism/communism of Obammy/cReid/PelosLIE.


83 posted on 12/07/2009 6:57:35 AM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: Steamburg

Until a republican SPEAKS up

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2401931/posts?page=7#7

They lose my vote.


84 posted on 12/07/2009 6:57:57 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: TomGuy

“For this survey, the respondents were asked to assume that the Tea Party movement organized as a new political party.”

OK- for a minute I thought checking FR every third day wasn’t enough - that someone formed a party while I was asleep.

Interesting that so many respondents latched right onto this concept and it somewhat answers the Dem machine rallying cry that the repub party is going extinct.


85 posted on 12/07/2009 6:58:07 AM PST by BonRad (As Rome goes so goes the world)
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To: ModelBreaker
Interesting. Those numbers mean that the Tea Parties are drawing a lot of Indies and Democrats, something the moderate R’s have never really figured out how to do. It’s a hard coalition to keep together because the moderate R’s have a certain cultural contempt for their lessers in the conservative wing of the party.

Please stop to think about what you just wrote. Do you really believe that all these "Indies and Democrats" that you're so happy about attracting are in the end going to hang in there with the conservatives? These people are not going to be conservative on the social issues and they're going to stray off the reservation just like everyone is doing now.

This is no panacea. People are people. You can realign them into a new group with a new name but you are going to eventually be right back to where we are now.

I want to call my new party The Anti-Democrat Party.

86 posted on 12/07/2009 6:58:42 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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To: rhombus; All
Except the Tea Party isn’t really a party but a collection of frustrated people. The only principles I think they could agree on at this pint is that they favor “small” government and revere the founders. Good principles, no doubt but the devil hides in the details about how to get there. So at this point I’d say the Tea Party is just more “hope and change” hype. Beyond that, I’m not sure there is any position on the social issues that Tea Party members would agree on. And then there’s the issue of national security. Do tea party members agree on a strong national defense or a more libertarian “it’s not my job” national defense? Lots of issues beyond just “small” Gov and RINO killing which would quickly put the tea party in the same hall of fame as the Ross Perot’s (or was it Buchannan’s or Nadar’s) deformed party?

Exactly. Indeed, the "Tea Party" movement doesn't appear to really have any hard and fast core principles either, beyond the general "small government" push.

Somebody posted a political advertisement for a Tea Party candidate on here yesterday, I think it was, some guy named Schiffer running up in OH. I checked it out, and frankly, he looked like some kind of Buchananite, which means I wouldn't support him. He never did get around to really explaining why the Republican he was running against was bad, except for some vague ramblings about how the "establishment" had "hand-picked" him (whether that is really true or not, I don't know, but depending on his ideology, doesn't matter that much).

If the Tea Party movement is going to be hijacked by Buchananites and other wackos, then it doesn't deserve to go anywhere. It needs to be a vehicle for true conservatives, not government-intervention friendly populists.

And I say this as someone who is supportive of the Tea Party movement and has been involved in organising Tea Parties.

87 posted on 12/07/2009 6:59:02 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (There are only two REAL conservatives in America - myself, and my chosen Presidential candidate)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

88 posted on 12/07/2009 6:59:22 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
try to run RINOs, against all common sense and against all political indicators

None of them will beat Obama, unless Obama screws up so badly that the Dems dump him and go with Hillary, thus opening up the election. Even then, I doubt most in that 'rino' group could even beat Hillary.

Keep in mind that Obama got nearly 2 electoral votes for every 1 McCain got.
89 posted on 12/07/2009 7:00:26 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Williams

From the numbers...seems to me that the GOP needs to join the Tea Party...not the other way around.


90 posted on 12/07/2009 7:00:44 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Do you want to join my new party? It’s called the Anti-Democrat Party. Everyone who wants to defeat Democrats is welcome to join. We’re against anything the Democrats are for.


91 posted on 12/07/2009 7:01:02 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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To: HGSW0904

49% of Democrats have no opinion on the Tea Party movement one way or another.

.................goodness. They really are brain-dead.
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Ubermeister, Tingly leg, scare-Madcrow, kos kiddies, RATS under-the-earth and all their minions have been telling ‘em that we’re tea-baggers for the past 11 months. Since they’re used to being told what to think by the dead alphabet media and hollyweird, they’re kinda confused.


92 posted on 12/07/2009 7:01:32 AM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: DManA

Your premise is pure BS. My new party is called the Anti-Democrat Party. Want to join?


93 posted on 12/07/2009 7:02:13 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

It’s called the Anti-Democrat Party.
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Which implies that the GOP and the Tea Parties really need to work together, right?


94 posted on 12/07/2009 7:02:39 AM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
We’re against anything the Democrats are for.

Oh? No Romney, then? No McCain? No Crist? No Steele? No Snowe? No Gingrich?

95 posted on 12/07/2009 7:03:00 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
I too have organized a number of tea parties and have a talk show on our local radio station discussing the very issues that anger the tea party attenders. It's MUCH more than simply just about “smaller government”. Its about restoring Article 1. Section 8 to its ORIGINAL MEANING thus eviscerating a large centralized federal government. This is not small potato's.
96 posted on 12/07/2009 7:03:08 AM PST by mek1959
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To: TomGuy; mmichaels1970; Steamburg; DManA; x_plus_one; heiss; cripplecreek; tgusa; silverleaf; ...
Side question: What is the compelling Tea Party message for these blood-sucker Americans in the thread below? "Join us, we will make you get a job and pay your fair share?"

I think our choice is bad or worse. Hold off as much as we can as long as we can for the next generation while we undo the 40 years of leftist education, or sit home "results be damned" as Eak3 says, and let the looter-train snowball.

This poll shows that a plurality of Americans like what the left is feeding them!!!

Nearly One Third of All Tax Filers Paid No Federal Income Taxes in 2007

About 46.6 Million Filers Were "Nonpayers" Due to Exemptions, Deductions, Credits

Washington, DC, December 4, 2009 -- Nearly one-third of the 143 million federal income tax returns filed in 2007 resulted in no tax payment, according to a Tax Foundation analysis of IRS data. That means the tax filers got back every dollar that had been withheld from their paychecks, and often more. Roughly 46.6 million tax returns, or 32.6 percent, are filed by such "nonpayers," people whose exemptions, deductions and credits wiped out any federal income tax due.

"In about half the cases, additional money was 'refunded' to these tax filers -- meaning they received a check from the government -- similar to welfare spending programs,"

97 posted on 12/07/2009 7:03:20 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: SoConPubbie
Rush is right. You will gain nothing from a 3rd party except more consolidated Democrat control of all three branches of the Federal Government and state government as well.

We moved the railroad tracks...YOU are now on the wrong side of the tracks...

You don't demand the majority side with the minority...

IF we lose to the Democrats, it will be the fault of the GOP and those who support it...

98 posted on 12/07/2009 7:04:30 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: TomGuy

While I was (and am) happy to co-sign the posting in question... you should, nonetheless, be PINGing the actual author, don’t you think? ;)


99 posted on 12/07/2009 7:04:45 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I completely agree except I’m not sure there’s much of an agreement on what a “true conservative” is either... unless it’s someone who uses a lot of exclamation marks, underscores and capital letters on FR. ;-)

That having been said, kudos to all Tea Party members.


100 posted on 12/07/2009 7:05:14 AM PST by rhombus
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