Posted on 12/07/2009 5:44:38 AM PST by TomGuy
ACORN uses the EITC tax credit to bankrupt the government with the help and approval of the IRS who employs ACORN VITA volunteers.
Big SOROS type money has captured the secretary of state office in at least 30 states.
We are under attack from foreign sources and can't afford to throw stones at our own poor housekeeping.
Ron Paul is a better congressman than Dede could’ve hoped to be.
Ron Paul is a “truther,” opposed to the War on Terror and a complete nutjob. In 2008, he could name among his supporters the president of Google, who paid people to campaign for Paul. Google is notoriously liberal. Maybe you haven’t kept up with all there is to know about Ron Paul. One thing for sure is that he gets Democrats elected.
Another thing for sure is that, in NY-23, the interference of Richard Viguerie and Club for Growth brought about a Democrat victory... the first for that seat since pre-Civil War.
You’re welcome to Ron Paul and third party, but it guarantees the Democrats stay in power.
| copying your posts ... would you mind? Not at all. Re-use whatever you need to. Although Global Warming is bunk, recycling is still a good idea! A point of clarification: CLEARLY, the election of Michael Steele to the RNC was a response to having the first African American president. Conservatives don't care about skin color one way or the other. However, Conservatives DO care about Conservatism. The RNC is trying to be everything to everybody. Sorry, that does NOT work in Politics — ask Harry Reid about an all-inclusive, big-tent DNC, LOL! Likewise, the RNC can't espouse big-tent values and NOT alienate its base — you can't allow a little bit of elective Abortion, grant a handful of Illegal Aliens carte-blanche Amnesty, or espouse BIG government while living in a Republic. You can't be all-inclusive in Marketing, either. For example, you won't find Pampers advertising on MTV, Lucky Charms cereal commercials on the History Channel or white Barbie doll 30-second spots on BET. Sorry ... targeted marketing doesn't work that way. Post #236 is not about skin color. It's about the RNC needing to be TRUE to the ideology of its Base INSTEAD OF trying to being “big tent” inclusive to EVERYONE, and using their Marketing resources POORLY. |
It should, and probably will for some, but many will spin and self-delude and deny to the detriment of all.
What’s most encouraging to me about this is the GOP/Tea Parties are beating the dems. The two sides need to unite against the dems around shared ideas, and kick the RINOs.
Tea Parties should try to work within GOP and influence who are GOP candidates and what policies are adopted.
http://theconservativehand.blogspot.com/
The Conservative Hand
A Manifesto for Achieving Conservative Political Goals
Written in January of 2009 (pre-Tea Party movement.) It uses the term “Free Conservative Movement” instead of “Tea Party Movement”, but what it describes is EXACTLY what the Tea Party Movement is becomming.
It contains a description of how a conservative movement like this can take back the Republican party (it will not be easy though.)
It’s short, and worth your time reading if you are really interested in changing the Republican party (instead of forming a 3rd party.)
Looks like 8 years of Obama
If your aim is to convince us that you're a retard, then mission accomplished.
I'd like to know which third party you think I support. I don't support any political party. They all suck. I support the U.S. Constitution and the United States of America and the GOP has done it's share of weakening both.
Nice ad hominem attack there. Thanks for illustrating who the knee-jerk retard is.
How many are aware of the extent of Ron Paul involvement in the Tea Party movement? It is his campaign that started the Tea Parties.
Horse hockey. Paul didn’t start the Tea Party movement. Next you’ll be saying the Tea Party protesters are just a bunch of Paul supporters in disguise.
Funny that. Oddly enough, here is the fourth paragraph and on, of the letter I am sending to the RNC. I wrote this several days ago as part of a draft. Waiting on my stationery, (which has shipped, ) to arrive. Then it goes.:
The programs of LBJ’s Great Society have devolved into a sweeping failure which has seen the exponential expansion of an underclass that this country should never, never have allowed to happen. That the greatest majority of this underclass is black and Hispanic should burn the conscience of every true conservative, but instead of our “party” seeking to right this wrong, it has simply joined in the degradation and pandered to these “victim” groups as if they belong where the Democrats put them.
Instead of challenging Democrats within these groups, you have chosen to compete on their level by promising them even more of the same. Why should they come over to our
side when they can get “more” of the same right where they are, on the road to nowhere? Two wrongs don’t make a right.
That is not Conservatism. Conservatives did not cause the plight they are in, and because we did nothing to change it, the Democrats have a voting block that is almost 100% solid even though they are less well off now than they were before. How can you condone this?
Had you not condoned it, the stage could not have been set for Obama to be elected simply because he is black.
They could care less, the same crowd that infiltrated the Democratic party was busy at the same time infiltrating the GOP. Do you think that the same cabal that infiltrated every single institution in this country with leftists somehow left the GOP and the military out of the equation? I don’t think so. The problem is that the rest of us at the bottom haven’t figured that out yet. The GOP has become the rear guard of the progressive left by pretending to oppose what is going on...
Yay! A poster who gets it and understands the correct way. People who believe in conservative principles need to use the apparatus of the GOP to push forward a conservative agenda.
To all the tantrum throwers out there, just a few questions:
1. Did Ronald Reagan form a third party? Even after he lost the nomination to Gerald Ford?
2. And which party nominated Reagan as its candidate in 1980?
3. And who won the 1980 and 1984 elections?
4. And which third-party candidate won the presidency in 1980 and 1992?
Just wondering.
-George
Link: Alabama Republican Liberty Caucus
Campaign for Liberty, the Ron Paul PAC is listed on their sidebar.
Two Ron Paul supporters at the Tuscaloosa Tea Party
From above website.
Nah, it's more a case of Republicans running as dem-lites who keep putting dems in power.
So what if the Tea Party movement originated with Ron Paul. As to your previous response to me, while I disagree with him on the War on Terror, he is not a truther. I believe he is far and away the best on the economy and that is clearly the most important issue right now. As for the New York race, Dede was clearly the wrong person for the Republicans to get behind. I’d rather have a one-term Dem than a multi-term RINO. Owens doesn’t have a chance if they run someone like McHugh against him.
Two can play a grass roots movement game and if history tells us anything...this socialist train is coming to it's fruition and the pendulum will soon swing against it. There is a new wind blowing on the horizon and the old sellouts will be left behind. If that doesn't scare the crap out of some big government blood suckers..I don't know what will. Having control over other peoples lives is not the American way, but if they want to push it..then so be it.
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It all sounds so dramatic Earth and I've been to over a dozen Tea Party events - so I'm all for the stopping of the socialist train and the reversal of the pendulum.
But now the fight gets practical and practical fighting means at the state, county and precinct level in the Republican party.
Unless you plan to outdo history. “In the history of the United States, not a single third party has come close to winning the presidency, only 7 3rd parties have even won a single state’s electoral votes and only 5 third parties have won even 10% of the vote.”
I don't like the other alternatives you suggest - letting the leftists destroy the nation, and then kicking their butts out (or something like that.) You can try to qualify that, ‘cause I sure wont. Or mebbe you want to community organize some more - in your own way?
You heard of Sarah Palin, Jim Demint, Mike Pence, Darrel Issa, Michelle Bachmann, Paul Ryan to name a few? Naw, they're a bunch of capitulaters, right? Come on DMan, that generalization doesn't make sense.
The strategy is to get conservatives involved all through the election cycle. Elect conservatives in the primaries, and you won’t have to worry about choosing between a RINO and Democrat...We don’t need another third party. We can take back the GOP. We built it; we paid for it. We just need to force out, or push aside, the former Democrats who have seized control of the GOP in recent decades.
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Exactly. Like I wrote in 183:
“the heavy lifting needs to happen in the precincts, county and state GOP meetings. If we take back the GOP at those levels, we won’t have these stupid, excruciating choices, nearly as much.”
As to 3rd parties, we can’t emphasize reality, legality, political convention and history enough. To wit: “In the history of the United States, not a single third party has come close to winning the presidency, only 7 3rd parties have even won a single state’s electoral votes and only 5 third parties have won even 10% of the vote.”
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