Posted on 12/01/2009 7:43:51 PM PST by Bigtigermike
Three months ago, I joined a number of Americans in urging President Obama to provide the resources necessary to achieve our goals in Afghanistan. Tonight, I am glad he mostly heeded that advice........
By 'pinned down' do you mean fufilling her obligations as Governor?
Excellent post!
Nice to see another adult on the thread.
First, don’t insult someone’s intelligence - it doesn’t boost your credibility. That’s the last refuge for someone who lacks a valid argument.
Second, I thought Palin was “a real person” and someone who speaks her mind? Since when is she supposed to speak cautiously? I thought her whole schtick was “going rogue?”
Furthermore, if you have some inside knowledge that she is going to run for higher office, please cite your source. I haven’t read or heard it from her yet. She likes to remind everyone that she is a private citizen.
Sarah may be providing more value now as you say. That can't be quantified and we have had several vocal and influential sitting governors in our history.
I think it's clear that Sarah is providing more value to the public since her resignation. I gave you a long and concise list documenting that point.
The inescapable problem (except for those who worship her) is that she walked away from a commitment to the public without a clear and clearly understandable reason. I saw the presser live. I know what reasons she gave and they were rambling, disjointed and weak (except to those who worship her).
Both you and the ever-so-objective, propaganda loving Drive-By media describe her resignation speech as "rambling". I think the are and you are wrong.
In her press conference she made it very clear, that she wasn't walking away from public commitment but instead moving toward a greater public commitment.
Obviously she is thinking about a presidential run. Obviously she would need to spend full time over the next year preparing for a run, if that is ultimately what she is going to do.
As I said, Sarah is more valuable to the public doing what she is doing now, than what she would have been if she had remained in Alaska, not running for president, checking off some less valuable box on her resume.
By 'pinned down' do you mean fufilling her obligations as Governor?
No, read the full context and try again before you make an attempt at a response.
“We need to ‘define victory’ because the U.S. has entered into conflicts with no set goal or objective.”
So your demand should be directed to the politicians and bureaucrats, the elitists and the statists—those who need to learn the definition of victory.
The definition is second nature to regular Americans, who haven’t been handicapped by political correctness.
Words are words if someone says they support victory, I do not expect a bob and weave clintoon answer of depends on what the definition of is is. If you, use the term, back it up with your definition. Simple, doesn't take an Einstein.
And your last sentence is nothing more than mumbo jumbo.
Words are words, you say?
The brilliance, it leaves me speechless.
Only two ways to achieve such brilliance—many years of wannabe Ivy League status, or many years of actual Ivy League status.
It’s the policymakers who screw things up for us. Those who serve political correctness and make victory seem unattainable.
Here’s a definition of victory for anyone who has deprived himself of both common sense and imagination:
1) Start with rules of engagement more like the ones we played in WWII.
2) Battlefield victories, when unhindered by political correctness, become psychological victories.
3) Psychological victory is the target threshold.
4) Beyond this threshold, a positive feedback mechanism initiates. The enemy breaks and lays down arms (yes, that means all future terrorists and suicide bombers).
So you see, victory means real fighting, which is possible only after cleansing ourselves of the scum of political correctness.
ROFLOL, still slinging the stuff at the wall, what does victory in Afghanistan mean, simple question.
U.S. victory in Afghanistan generally means the same as U.S. victory in Iraq.
U.S. victory in Iraq is defined as the current status in Iraq.
By the way, I’d like to take a moment to apologize on behalf of pro-Iraq war conservatives (and others), for being right about the Iraq war.
It was very inconsiderate of us to take a position that eventually made Iraq war opponents look so incompetent and outright stupid.
LOL
I see your predicament.
It went from
“Bush is wrong”
to “What we meant was, it can never win militarily”
to “What we meant was, it can never succeed politically”
to the current protest which is
“What we meant was, the current military and political success in Iraq can’t be sustained if we leave.”
Either plan what your next excuse will be, or take the option which will be much better for your mental health and totally ignore the progress in Iraq.
That way you can make things up like “Duhh...I can’t figure out what winning means, so we should just pull out of Afghanistan.”
What progress in Iraq, we're paying people not to fight , when the payments stop what will happen.
Now, I wish you would get back on topic and stop wondering all over the world. The Topic is Victory in Afghanistan. My question was, what is your definition in Afghanistan? Simple question.
Apologies for the small mind. Now to your question.
The motivation of the suicide bomber and the terrorist is not simply his personal hatred or need for vengeance.
Another, more important motivation is the knowledge that large organizations, including sovereign countries, are successfully supporting them ideologically and materially. They are psychologically secure in their terrorist actions because their culture has conditioned them to yield to “the strong horse.”
If you take away this support, you take away their psychological security and their motivation is gone. They will stop killing and destroying.
The way to take away the support is through military defeat. That is, kill enough people and break enough things that the political leaders surrender, and meanwhile on the street, among the populace, the spirit to support terrorists is broken.
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Pronunciation [ob-fuh-skeyt, ob-fuhs-keyt] Show IPA
–verb (used with object), -cat⋅ed, -cat⋅ing.
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All the BS, But still no answer!!
Did you catch this part?
“kill enough people and break enough things”
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