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To: graceisfree

If the gunman had been training to do this, I don’t see anything improbable about it. Remember, the Northwest (Oregon and WA, both, I believe) had all those black Muslim jihadis running around the woods “training” a few years ago. And John Muhammed, who was from WA and “trained” out there, was certainly a pretty good shot.

Surprise is a key element - but I don’t think they’re going to be able to count on it again. I bet police procedures everywhere are going to be significantly changed now.


82 posted on 11/29/2009 3:00:26 PM PST by livius
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To: livius
"If the gunman had been training to do this, I don’t see anything improbable about it"

When the targets are occupied ( on laptops), - in perceived "safe" environment due to presence of additional officers, - hands occupied,- weapons holstered,- all head shots, targets easily identified, shooter unknown to targets this scenario is and was entirely possible.

Sad to see that four additional names will be added to the memorial.

85 posted on 11/29/2009 3:45:37 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: livius

I am recruiting you to contribute to this thread as you see fit:

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89 posted on 11/29/2009 4:05:04 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA))
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To: livius

LAKEWOOD, Wash. - Four uniformed police officers were shot and killed in a bloody Sunday morning ambush at a Lakewood-area coffee shop, officials said.

Investigators now believe the gunman also may have been shot during the cold-blooded attack, as one of the officers returned fire just before he died of his injuries.

Pierce County Sheriff’s Office spokesman Ed Troyer called the ambush “a targeted attack” on the four Lakewood police officers as they were preparing to start their shifts at about 8:15 a.m.

Officials at the scene said a lone gunmen burst into the Forza Coffee Co. outlet at 11401 Steele St. South, shot the four uniformed officers as they were working on their laptop computers, then fled the scene.

One of the officers was shot as he attempted to struggle with the gunman, Troyer said. Another officer fired off some shots toward the gunman as he fled, and may have hit him.

“We have reason to believe there were shots fired,” Troyer said. “We hope the suspect was shot, because that would tell us who it is. There aren’t a whole lot of people running around with gunshot wounds.” Two baristas and a handful of other customers were inside the coffee shop at the time of the attack, but none of them were shot or injured. The suspect fled without taking any money.

Troyer described the scene inside the coffee shop as “carnage and a scene out of a horror movie.”

Three male officers and one female officer all died at the scene. “They were just flat executed,” Troyer said.

State Attorney General Rob McKenna termed the shootings an “assassination.”

Troyer said officers were looking for one male suspect who fled the scene and haven’t ruled out an accomplice, possibly a getaway driver.

It wasn’t clear whether the officers even had time to draw their weapons to return fire, Troyer said.

“This was more of an execution. Walk in with the specific mindset to shoot police officers,” Troyer said.

About 2 1/2 hours after the deadly ambush, officers identified a white Chevy pickup truck abandoned at 134th Street and Pacific Avenue South that is believed to be the one that the suspect fled in.

Soon after, there was a standoff reported between officers and one or more people inside a residence a few blocks away, but it turned out to have no connection with the case, police said.

A $10,000 reward is being offered for any information leading to the arrest of the suspect or any possible accomplices, Troyer said. An emergency tip line has been set up, at 866-977-2362, for callers to report any helpful information.

Troyer encouraged anyone who knows someone with an unexplained gunshot wound to call the tip line.

The suspect was described as a black male in his mid-20s to mid-30s, standing 5-foot-7 to 5-foot-10, medium build, with scruffy facial hair, wearing blue jeans and a black coat with a hood.

Troyer said the Pierce County Sheriff’s Department initially responded to a 911 call of shots fired at the Forza Coffee Co. outlet at 11401 Steele St. S. in Parkland.

When deputies arrived, they found the four Lakewood police officers shot and killed inside the coffee shop, he said.

“Two baristas and a few customers were inside the coffee shop at the time of the shooting. They were not injured but all are in shock and traumatized. It appears the officers were targeted and ambushed by the suspect,” Troyer said in a statement.

Within minutes of the first 911 call, hundreds of investigators and police were rushing to the scene. Roads were blocked in the vicinity of the attack.

“I’ve never seen so many cops,” said one witness as officers converged on the area.

The coffee shop where the shootings took place is owned by Brad Carpenter, a retired police officer, KOMO News has confirmed.

The incident is being investigated by the Pierce County Sheriff’s Department, with assistance from the Tacoma Police Department, Lakewood Police Department, the Pierce County Department of Emergency Management and the Washington State Patrol Crime Lab, Troyer said.

“There will be a large police presence in Pierce County throughout the day as large numbers of law enforcement follow up on leads and tips,” he said. “The public in urged to stay away from any police activity.”

McKenna said he is turning all the resources of his office toward finding and prosecuting the gunman.

“I have directed all of the criminal justice resources of this office ... be made available to those conducting the investigation into these assassinations,” McKenna said. “Our prosecutors and investigators stand ready to help bring those who committed this murderous act to justice.”

A prayer vigil for the four slain Lakewood police officers is being held at 6 p.m. Sunday at the Champions Centre, a nondenominational Christian church, at 1819 E. 72nd St., in Tacoma with seating for 3,000.

Pastor Sue Kahawaii says the congregation includes Lakewood officers and Pierce County sheriff’s deputies. She says the vigil will include guided prayers and give people a place to express grief.

The deadly shootings come less than a month after Seattle Police Officer Timothy Brenton was shot to death in cold blood as he was sitting in a cruiser with trainee Britt Sweeney on Halloween night. Sweeney was grazed in the neck.

Christopher Monfort of Tukwila has been charged with aggravated first-degree murder in connection with Brenton’s death.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/78088192.html

For more coverage of the shootings, go to tacoma.komonews.com.


92 posted on 11/29/2009 4:15:12 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: livius

I appreciate your comments: points well taken! It just sickens me of what happened...Attempting to piece together in my own mind, what happened I appreciate the thoughts and comments of the other posters regarding the jihadee’s. Time will paint a clearer picture...

and

...it is hard for me to grasp still how the gunmen (solo?), was able to get all four officers without getting shot himself (unknown to me at this time). Also having read others comments, of being in a relatively safe environement, with other officers around, and attention focused on their computers makes sense of how he was able to. (this post I believe brings up an important and valid thought as far as policy changes that may occure):

To: DakotaRed
i read in one of the articles they had computers out and were getting ready for their shift... isn’t that something done at the station before they leave???)
20 posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 1:06:11 PM by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)

Most recent update I heard was fourth officer was able to struggle, getting as far as to the door and outside on the ‘porch’ area, either having fired shots off already at gunmen, or firing at fleeing suspect and injuring him, not confirmed as of yet.


95 posted on 11/29/2009 4:27:54 PM PST by graceisfree (...and these Three are One)
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