Posted on 11/22/2009 7:50:01 AM PST by Kaslin
A tasteless joke – one that saw earlier popularity during the administrations of Bill Clinton and George W. Bush – has resurfaced across America. It is being told in whispers, emails, and even bumper stickers. During Mr. Clinton’s administration it even found its way into some Sunday church bulletins. And it is really beneath contempt in its lack of respect for the president, the presidency, not to mention the Bible itself.
It goes something like this: “Pray for President Obama. Psalm 109:8.”
At first glance it appears innocuous, even pious. But when time is taken to look up the reference, well, then it’s chortle, chortle time for buffoons:
“Let his days be few, and let another take his office.” – Psalm 109:8 (NKJV)
And the verse following continues the thought:
“Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.” – Psalm 109:9 (NJKV)
Of course, the point of the joke is to show disaffection with President Obama. But the real result is to use scripture in a twisted way and to find somehow funny the idea that our president should, well, come to an ignominious end leaving his family to grieve.
Funny stuff. Real Jackie Gleason belly laugh stuff: Har har hardy har har.
It should be clear to decent, reasonable, reflective, and compassionate people that some things simply aren’t funny. One just has to look back at what happened 46 years ago this weekend to see that. I have no clue if that same joke was around in the days of the Kennedy administration, but I know that the feelings of too-casual contempt it reveals were very much around.
I am a conservative when it comes to politics - a conservative with strong libertarian leanings. I am no fan of much of the political agenda of President Obama and his administration. Sometimes I get annoyed. Occasionally (okay, more than occasionally) I talk back to the T.V. when I hear or see something that, to me, does not pass the test of constitutionality or common sense.
I would probably only vote for Mr. Obama’s reelection if the choice was between him and, say, Harry Reid – or Boss Tweed. I very much believe that the president and his advisors have a socialist bent and that what they are trying to accomplish through Health-Care Reform and Cap-and-Trade machinations amounts to the kind of change Americans really didn’t envision when he was elected last year.
But it needs to be said that a president can be opposed and criticized - even in an animated way - without resorting to the kind of meanness that crosses the line of civility.
I have no problem with partisanship – even a little fiery rhetoric here and there. America is better when our politics are feisty. But, come on – using the Bible to make a joke about the man dying before his term is up?
Seriously?
Think back. Remember John “John-John” Kennedy Jr. saluting his daddy’s casket on that cold November Monday in 1963? Is there anything funny about that? Nope, it was all just very sad. And it bears noting that Mr. Kennedy evoked opinions and opposition from conservative Americans in much the same way Mr. Obama does now.
On the last morning of his life, JFK woke up in the Presidential Suite of the Hotel Texas in downtown Fort Worth, Texas. As he made his way down to the facility’s Crystal Ballroom to speak to a Chamber of Commerce breakfast gathering of about 2,000 people, he encountered a maid by the name of Jan White, who asked him to sign her newspaper. He did – probably the last autograph of his life – writing his name near his picture on the front page of that day’s Dallas Morning News. The headline on November 22, 1963 was: “Storm of Political Controversy Swirls Around Kennedy On Visit.”
The next morning that same paper bore the message: “Kennedy Slain On Dallas Street.”
People mourned. Americans who had not voted for Mr. Kennedy – and never would have – were deeply impacted by the violent tragedy. And, in fact, his days were made few, and another was allowed to take his office. His wife also became a widow and his children were suddenly fatherless.
I’m sorry, but there is nothing funny about that. Nor is there anything funny about using a passage of scripture as a punch line, one that finds sadistic humor in such depraved darkness as to be at all amused at the potential demise of a national leader.
Of course, I recognize that when George W. Bush was in office, the same things were circulated about him by a few on the other side of the political spectrum. But some things are simply not funny. It was wrong when liberals did it – and it is wrong for conservatives to do it.
Shortly before November 22, 1963 - when I was about seven years old – I came home from school one day armed with a joke about President Kennedy. I cannot for the life of me remember the punch line - or the straight line for that matter. But I do remember the moment I decided to let ‘er rip at the dinner table that night. I was sure that I was on safe ground, after all, my parents were Nixon people in 1960 (later Goldwater people in 1964, then back to RN again in ’68) and not big fans of Mr. Kennedy. I know I had heard my dad criticize the president for this or that, though never in a mean way. So I thought he would just love my hilarious joke.
I told it with all the skills of a 2nd grade class clown. Then I waited for the howls of laughter from my parents. And I waited. Then after a moment or two – and I can still see and hear this in my mind – came a powerful rebuke from the head of the table, ending with the unambiguous: “Son, don’t ever talk about the President of the United States like that!”
Tough room.
I learned something about respect that day. It’s something I think about now and again when things heat up politically and I find myself invariably frustrated with politics du jour. And though I sometimes fly admittedly close to the flame of the kind of disrespect that crosses the line between honest disagreement and just plain malice, I am never comfortable with that kind of indignation – righteous or otherwise.
Anger is toxic, often subtly so. Certainly there are times when animosity can give way to constructive change. But while such antipathy can occasionally be the catalyst for ultimate good, it must never be the default fuel. It is ferociously destructive.
By the way, the use of Psalm 109:8 as a joke applied to President Obama is not only a beneath-contempt expression of ugliness, it is also a profoundly ignorant use of the Bible. For when you read further in the good book, all the way through the gospels and into The Acts of the Apostles, you find Simon Peter, the recently redeemed Jesus-denier, quoting that very passage in reference to another Apostle who did something abhorrent – Judas Iscariot.
Peter applied it as an epitaph for Christ’s infamous betrayer, though he must have done so with the humility to think, “there but for the grace of God go I.”
All praying people should fervently pray for President Obama and all those in authority – and not tongue-in-cheek petitions. As yet another Apostle, this one named Paul wrote:
“I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone, for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness.” – I Timothy 2:1-2 (NIV)
So, what was the joke you told?
You’ll have to stand in line for that.
Another Liberal lecture on intolerance? Read the rest of the book.
Stokes is another Maureen Dowd. Stokes added 109:9 just like Dowd added the word ‘boy’ on Wilson’s famous ‘You Lie!’ comment.
I believe that Obama is by far the greatest danger that America as a free country has faced in its history, far more deadly and dangerous than King George III, the Civil War, Hitler, or Stalin, and for more reasons than just being an internal enemy with power over our government and who dedicates his life to evil. Despite all that, I want to see Obama fail in our White House for four years. We’ve already paid a large part of the cost for this experiment in socialism. I want the benefits, the unarguable proof from his failure that socialism is evil, destructive, and nothing that should be supported for as long as our rather limited memories last (about one generation, but I’ll take what I can get). If Obama leaves office early, for whatever reason, I suspect the morons and parasites will choose another socialist within 4 to 8 years. We’re better off with four years of pain now than with another round of evil, perhaps next time facing a more competent tyrant.
But I bet this guy didn't write about it when the scumbag liberals were doing it.
Anyway, that's a pretty good joke! I never heard it before but I'm sure going to use it.
Too freakin' bad: I got over being reasonable, reflective, and compassionate last January.
I think it's funny; even if it's not, I agree with the sentiments in Verse 8...
My bumper sticker will read:
"Pray for Pres. Obama
Psalm 109:8-14"
“office” is “episcopatum” in the Vulgate and e^piscope^n in the Septuagint — clearly not a secular office.
In the Hebrew, it’s pequddah, which according to my concordance is not so clear that it’s a religious office instead of a secular one.
I’m really not familiar with this “joke,” applied to Clinton, Bush 43, or Obama.
I’m really not familiar with this “joke,” applied to Clinton, Bush 43, or Obama.
Notes: (a) Psa 55:23 (b) Act 1:20 Since both the Vulgate and the LXX are derivative,
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
I would lean on the Hebrew for understanding. <06486> hD'quP. pequddah (824a)
HSN-6485 occurs in
Meaning: oversight, mustering, visitation, store
Origin: from 6485
Usage: administrators(1), affairs(1), appointed(1), care(1), class(1), executioners(1), fate(1),
muster(2), office(1), officers(1), offices(3), oversight(2), prison*(1), punishment(11),
responsibility(2), stored(1).
Exod. 3:16; 1 Sam. 15:2; Isa. 38:10; Jer. 44:13; 50:18; Zeph. 3:7 rv,a] particle relative dqP verb qal perfect 1st person common singular
I would not read too deeply into the word other than office.
H6485 dq;P'
Meaning: v 1) to attend to, muster, number, reckon, visit, punish, appoint, look after, care for 1a) (Qal) 1a1) to pay
attention to, observe 1a2) to attend to 1a3) to seek, look about for 1a4) to seek in vain, need, miss, lack 1a5) to
visit 1a6) to visit upon, punish 1a7) to pass in review, muster, number 1a8) to appoint, assign, lay upon as a
charge, deposit 1b) (Niphal) 1b1) to be sought, be needed, be missed, be lacking 1b2) to be visited 1b3) to be
visited upon 1b4) to be appointed 1b5) to be watched over 1c) (Piel) to muster, call up 1d) (Pual) to be passed in
review, be caused to miss, be called, be called to account 1e) (Hiphil) 1e1) to set over, make overseer, appoint an
overseer 1e2) to commit, entrust, commit for care, deposit 1f) (Hophal) 1f1) to be visited 1f2) to be deposited
1f3) to be made overseer, be entrusted 1g) (Hithpael) numbered 1h) (Hothpael) numbered n m pl abstr 2)
musterings, expenses
It is by the left and the lame stream media
This is like the old joke: "He's a Rabbi. A Reformed Rabbi. A *really* Reformed Rabbi. He's a Nazi."
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