And the Vatican is about to reveal something about aliens?
Posted on 11/22/2009 7:50:01 AM PST by Kaslin
A tasteless joke – one that saw earlier popularity during the administrations of Bill Clinton and George W. Bush – has resurfaced across America. It is being told in whispers, emails, and even bumper stickers. During Mr. Clinton’s administration it even found its way into some Sunday church bulletins. And it is really beneath contempt in its lack of respect for the president, the presidency, not to mention the Bible itself.
It goes something like this: “Pray for President Obama. Psalm 109:8.”
At first glance it appears innocuous, even pious. But when time is taken to look up the reference, well, then it’s chortle, chortle time for buffoons:
“Let his days be few, and let another take his office.” – Psalm 109:8 (NKJV)
And the verse following continues the thought:
“Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.” – Psalm 109:9 (NJKV)
Of course, the point of the joke is to show disaffection with President Obama. But the real result is to use scripture in a twisted way and to find somehow funny the idea that our president should, well, come to an ignominious end leaving his family to grieve.
Funny stuff. Real Jackie Gleason belly laugh stuff: Har har hardy har har.
It should be clear to decent, reasonable, reflective, and compassionate people that some things simply aren’t funny. One just has to look back at what happened 46 years ago this weekend to see that. I have no clue if that same joke was around in the days of the Kennedy administration, but I know that the feelings of too-casual contempt it reveals were very much around.
I am a conservative when it comes to politics - a conservative with strong libertarian leanings. I am no fan of much of the political agenda of President Obama and his administration. Sometimes I get annoyed. Occasionally (okay, more than occasionally) I talk back to the T.V. when I hear or see something that, to me, does not pass the test of constitutionality or common sense.
I would probably only vote for Mr. Obama’s reelection if the choice was between him and, say, Harry Reid – or Boss Tweed. I very much believe that the president and his advisors have a socialist bent and that what they are trying to accomplish through Health-Care Reform and Cap-and-Trade machinations amounts to the kind of change Americans really didn’t envision when he was elected last year.
But it needs to be said that a president can be opposed and criticized - even in an animated way - without resorting to the kind of meanness that crosses the line of civility.
I have no problem with partisanship – even a little fiery rhetoric here and there. America is better when our politics are feisty. But, come on – using the Bible to make a joke about the man dying before his term is up?
Seriously?
Think back. Remember John “John-John” Kennedy Jr. saluting his daddy’s casket on that cold November Monday in 1963? Is there anything funny about that? Nope, it was all just very sad. And it bears noting that Mr. Kennedy evoked opinions and opposition from conservative Americans in much the same way Mr. Obama does now.
On the last morning of his life, JFK woke up in the Presidential Suite of the Hotel Texas in downtown Fort Worth, Texas. As he made his way down to the facility’s Crystal Ballroom to speak to a Chamber of Commerce breakfast gathering of about 2,000 people, he encountered a maid by the name of Jan White, who asked him to sign her newspaper. He did – probably the last autograph of his life – writing his name near his picture on the front page of that day’s Dallas Morning News. The headline on November 22, 1963 was: “Storm of Political Controversy Swirls Around Kennedy On Visit.”
The next morning that same paper bore the message: “Kennedy Slain On Dallas Street.”
People mourned. Americans who had not voted for Mr. Kennedy – and never would have – were deeply impacted by the violent tragedy. And, in fact, his days were made few, and another was allowed to take his office. His wife also became a widow and his children were suddenly fatherless.
I’m sorry, but there is nothing funny about that. Nor is there anything funny about using a passage of scripture as a punch line, one that finds sadistic humor in such depraved darkness as to be at all amused at the potential demise of a national leader.
Of course, I recognize that when George W. Bush was in office, the same things were circulated about him by a few on the other side of the political spectrum. But some things are simply not funny. It was wrong when liberals did it – and it is wrong for conservatives to do it.
Shortly before November 22, 1963 - when I was about seven years old – I came home from school one day armed with a joke about President Kennedy. I cannot for the life of me remember the punch line - or the straight line for that matter. But I do remember the moment I decided to let ‘er rip at the dinner table that night. I was sure that I was on safe ground, after all, my parents were Nixon people in 1960 (later Goldwater people in 1964, then back to RN again in ’68) and not big fans of Mr. Kennedy. I know I had heard my dad criticize the president for this or that, though never in a mean way. So I thought he would just love my hilarious joke.
I told it with all the skills of a 2nd grade class clown. Then I waited for the howls of laughter from my parents. And I waited. Then after a moment or two – and I can still see and hear this in my mind – came a powerful rebuke from the head of the table, ending with the unambiguous: “Son, don’t ever talk about the President of the United States like that!”
Tough room.
I learned something about respect that day. It’s something I think about now and again when things heat up politically and I find myself invariably frustrated with politics du jour. And though I sometimes fly admittedly close to the flame of the kind of disrespect that crosses the line between honest disagreement and just plain malice, I am never comfortable with that kind of indignation – righteous or otherwise.
Anger is toxic, often subtly so. Certainly there are times when animosity can give way to constructive change. But while such antipathy can occasionally be the catalyst for ultimate good, it must never be the default fuel. It is ferociously destructive.
By the way, the use of Psalm 109:8 as a joke applied to President Obama is not only a beneath-contempt expression of ugliness, it is also a profoundly ignorant use of the Bible. For when you read further in the good book, all the way through the gospels and into The Acts of the Apostles, you find Simon Peter, the recently redeemed Jesus-denier, quoting that very passage in reference to another Apostle who did something abhorrent – Judas Iscariot.
Peter applied it as an epitaph for Christ’s infamous betrayer, though he must have done so with the humility to think, “there but for the grace of God go I.”
All praying people should fervently pray for President Obama and all those in authority – and not tongue-in-cheek petitions. As yet another Apostle, this one named Paul wrote:
“I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone, for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness.” – I Timothy 2:1-2 (NIV)
Can I pray that Obama has a long and prosperous retirement? Starting tomorrow?
Wah wah wah
This person believes there will be another honest election.
I would rather see Obama arrested for Treason, along with just about every member of the house and senate.
Only an jerk would want to see Obama killed in office. Turmoil and race riots would engulf the country. The world would morn him as a Jesus type who was killed because he cared too much.
May Obama be like Carter, a one termer who was found out and kikced out of office.
Although the sentiments are noble, the author has scant understanding of human nature and its reaction to extreme frustration.
I am OK with verse 8.
Much ado about nothing if you ask me.
Did the author register similar outrage when President Bush was the target of the *joke*?
Perhaps not!
No one added anything at all about 109:9. I do wish his days in office to be few and for another to take his office. I stand behind my words
Funny thing, I’m just now listening to this video, a Frank Schieffer loves Obama and excoriates Christians, of whom he is the greatest of course
I thought it was amusing, in a sick way, when none of this was said when Bush was President.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZzsjULXDnA
Good grief, the lamentations of the women can be heard over at TownHall.com
And I’m sure people were equally outraged at similar, and MUCH WORSE, comments made toward GWB (not!).
“Let his days be few”, in the context of that one verse, could mean just that his days be few in office. So that’s OK.
I think we conservatives are not rabid enough (thank God) to ever cite the second verse (making his wife a widow, etc.). That would be wrong, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone cite that verse toward 0bama.
Jeremiah 50:31
Behold, I am against you, O you most proud, said the said the Lord GOD of hosts
google it
And the Vatican is about to reveal something about aliens?
I once had a wonderful godly Pastor named Reginald Stokes. He had a son named David Stokes, IIRC. I do wish I could tell David how much this is not a joke. The affirmative action liar-in-chief is working very hard and very quickly to destroy America. The verse from Psalms is a serious request to the Lord, just as those of us who are praying it now, to end the assault on America that Barry Obama and the democrat party are carrying out.
What worked to destroy Bush will also work to destroy Obama. Turn-up-the-noise!
Psalm 109 is talking about all the gentile nations The Psalm describes the world leader who will have the If David R. Stokes is claiming that Barak Hussein Obama Seems to be a pagan who is ignorant of Psalm 109
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
and it's purpose and content.
gathered against YHvH's land for destruction.
at the end of days.
Evil One by his side
as they come against Israel in the latter days.
is leading the gentile nations against Israel with the Evil One
at his side.
That is for Mr. Stokes to state openly,
if he were a follower of the Christ.
Nobody rational wishes for assassination.
Many wish for him to leave office via the fastest possible mechanism, preferably his own voluntary resignation.
Apart from the obvious moral and legal arguments against assassination, I don’t think I could stand all the grade schools, high schools, boulevards, highways, government buildings and, God forbid, naval vessels that would be named after him.
“May his days be few” — as in may he not get reelected or perhaps may he resign or be impeached. Doesn’t need to be about killing or dying. If it were we would also use verse 9.
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