They only need 51 to pass it now... thats the problem... They easily have 51 radical leftwingers who don’t care and are either not up for re-election or are in Liberal safe havens....
We are screwed... The fight is over.
Actually no - this vote only allows them to start debate. They need another cloture vote (which requires 60 votes) to end debate and proceede to a final vote.
No. They need 60 to end the Republican filibuster. The filibuster cannot start until the bill is allowed to be debated on the floor of the senate. The vote tonight is only to start debate. To stop the filibuster will require 60 votes sometime in the future.
Take a breath. This is nowhere near “over.” All this vote today does is allow the bill to be debated. There was little doubt that this vote would pass. Big deal. The next vote, probably several weeks from now, is for cloture and it is far from certain that it will pass. If it does, then there will be a vote on the actual Senate bill.
Even then, the House and Senate bills have to be reconciled, and the resulting bill then has to be passed by both houses. This could go well into 2010 before a final vote is taken. There will be several opportunities for whole process to blow up in their socialist faces.
For now it is over. Next battle is for 2010. We should quit wasting time trying to communicate with these Scoundrels and start the campaigns NOW! I am making anti-Castor signs to place around against Kathy Castor.Fanatic liberal of Tampa to get the ball rolling. I do not know who is running against her and do not care. Let the fight begin. They ain’t seen nothin yet.
NO , they still need a 60 votes to stop the debate .
That was how amnesty was killed . The bill not got a cloture vote to stop the debate.
They only need 51 to pass it now... thats the problem... They easily have 51 radical leftwingers who don’t care and are either not up for re-election or are in Liberal safe havens....
We are screwed... The fight is over.
You are the only one that is right. It’s over. The traitors votes for no after this is only for cover.
No the fight is not over. They do not have 60 votes to end the debate and hence the bill in its current form is dead.