Posted on 11/19/2009 2:33:40 PM PST by pabianice
Very grim show tonight. Beck expects Senate to pass Obamacare by Christmas; bill to be "reconciled" and signed by Obama at beginning of 2010 (abortion back in, single-payer system in, Medicare rape back in). Beck's office called all 58 Dem senators for comment. Not one called back. They are in lock-down by Reid, Obama. Beck expects "immigration reform" to pass next. 20 million new Democrat voters. Unions being taken care of by Obama -- they get everything they want. Very alarming and depressing.
A mere handful of wobbling Democratic Senators must be persuaded to stop, block, filibuster, the Health Care Reform. The following are considered key Senators: people who will go either way.
Reid has NO margin for error: he has to get ALL 60 Dems in order to put the bill on the floor.
Here's the key concept: Urge these Senators to Vote No on any "procedural vote" to "move to the health bill."
This will happen Friday or Saturday!
We don't want the bill even to make it to the floor!
Ben Nelson (D NE)
Strong abortion opponent
Against Big Government, the "public option"
Fiscal conservative
Quote: "Faced with a decision about whether or not to move a bill that is bad, I won't vote to move it," he told ABC News. "For sure."
Use: City Omaha, Zip Code 68108 (plus any 4 digits), Area Code (402)
Blanche Lincoln (D Ark)
Member of the Senate Finance Committee
Voted twice against making the "public option" part of the bill
Facing tough re-election, eager to display her conservative credentials in a state that was handily carried by Sen. John McCain
probably won't even agree to let the bill be debated on the Senate floor.
Use: City Little Rock, Zip Code 72291 (plus any 4 digits), Area Code (501)
Joe Lieberman (I CT)
Independent but caucuses with the Democrats
has threatened to filibuster against public option. ..Quote: I would use the power I have as a single senator to stop a final vote," he said in a recent televised interview.
Use City Hartford, Zip Code 06160 (plus any 4 digits), Area Code (860)
Sen. Susan Collins (R Maine)
Could go either way
One of just three Republican lawmakers to cross party lines and vote for the Recovery Act (a.k.a. Federal Stimulus Package)
voted in favor of the Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act (H.R. 2)
but although pro-reform, she is on record as being against (quote) "billions of dollars in new taxes and fees that will drive up the cost of health insurance premiums." The whole bill should be re-written, Collins said, according to the New York Times.
Use City Augusta, Zip Code 04330 (plus any 4 digits), Area Code (207)
Robert Casey (D PA)
On record as an opponent of abortion, from a very pro-life district
Use City Erie, Zip Code 16501 (plus any 4 digits), Area Code (814)
Evan Bayh (D IN)
Concerned about tax on medical-device makers in the current legislation
Indiana is the third-biggest state for jobs in the medical device sector, with currently some 63,000 Indiana residents working in that field
.Quote: "I want to know what works for families and small businesses."
Bayh says medical devices fee would "seriously threaten thousands of American jobs and deter innovation in the industry."
Use city Indianapolis, Zip Code 46201 (plus any 4 digits), Area Code (317)
Sen. Mary Landrieu (D LA)
Often on the fence about issues
Mixed voting record on Abortion, rated 43% by NARAL (pro-abortion) and 50% by NRLC (pro-life)
Favors letting some states try "trigger" mechanisms that would create a public option if residents don't have enough insurance choices (needs to be vehemently argued out of this fallback position)
Quote "I'm not for a government-run, national, taxpayer-subsidized plan, and never will be."
Use city New Orleans, Zip Code 70141 (plus any 4 digits), Area Code (504)
Roland Burris (D IL)
A bit quirky and cantankerous, Burris' willingness to bend could prove crucial if Reid needs every possible vote in crafting a compromise, such as a national public option that is triggered if certain insurance availability targets aren't met. Or might favor a public option offered by states, not feds. Or might be pushed to favor no on the bill altogether. Push him to say NO, JUST NO! At age 72, Burris has virtually nothing to lose by defying his party's leaders and voting as he pleases.
Use city Kankakee, Zip Code 60901 (plus any 4 digits), Area Code (815)
Here's how I do it. These are not phone calls, these are Constituent Message System e-mails. When you click on the link, fill out all the info with your real name and street address, but give the "local" city, state, and zip.
If they do not require a phone number, don't give a phone number. The "local" info just gets you through any possible local-constituent filter.
If you prefer to do the whole thing with your true address info, that's OK too. But sometimes when they have heavy traffic, they may filter for "local" and dump out-of-state messages. So this protects you from being dumped.
Reid does not plan on keeping the "Stupak-Pitts" pro-life amendment in the Senate version of the bill. He is expected to take up the House bill, and then replace it with a "Senate substitute" which will fund elective abortions. He is also in hot water about the "public option," with some Dem Senators saying they won't vote for the bill WITH public option, and some (on the Left) saying they won't vote for the bill WITHOUT it.
This is our chance to stop it dead.
That is my line in the sand, as it were, and I already feel more free.
That makes good talk, but why aren’t holding out in D.C. surrounding the White House or Capitol until they tell us they won’t pass anything else, or spend any more money?
No like sheep we sit here and WATCH it happen.
I like Beck, but I totally agree with your point. His brand of folksy sensationalism sells well in this political climate. In addition as Mark Levin pointed out Beck changes his alarmism as the wind changes, he was for the TARP bill and was screeching last Fall that the system was about to collapse, he had on his economic experts predicting mass bank failures, etc, if there wasn't immediate action. I agree with his points on the national debt and the defeicit but the dirty secret is the system is already collapsing there is no way to stop it. Those bonds the Chinese hold...suckers, we will default on them and become the world's biggest deadbeat. It's done and was done back in 1933. Socialism never works, it's an abject and discredited failure and we have spend trillions chasing this fairy tale. You can't have a system where a janitor over his lifetime pays in 30k in SS taxes and then pay out 250k over his 20 year retirement. It's basic math and total ponzi scheme. We might as well just default on the debt and kill two birds with one stone, alleviate ourselves of the burden and collapse China where they can turn the guns on each other and commit national suicide. G*dless heathens are headed that way anyway.
Some trees need watering.
He said the same thing the other night. “The tea parties were for nothing. They’ll get everything they want.” Defeatism is not what is needed right now. On a side note, the Republican party needs a lot of reform in the form of kicking out the RINOs, but I’m tired of his “oh, the Republicans are just as bad” schtick. Other than the usual suspects, the Republicans are holding firm against Obamacare, Glenn. If not them, then who? Will the Libertarians in Congress stop it? Wait, there aren’t any.
And Beck knows all? His opinion is better than yours why?
Lock ‘n load.....it’s coming to that.
I doubt you’ll get far with Casey, which is why I’m not calling him. I’ve watched him in debates. He’s a lying snake POS who ran on daddy’s name. If he told me the sky was blue I’d look up to make sure.
It's gonna get passed, if it takes them another year....they can't wait until 2010, and risk loss of TOTAL control of Congress after the elections, and since it ain't their money, they don't care how much payoff's and buyouts are necessary to get the votes to pass it.
Silly to thrown in the towel just as the real contest has begun.
And one thing about a man without principles--- like Casey: if he'll turn one way, he'll turn another. He needs to have pressure put on him. And he does come from a state with a lot of very ardent prolifers, many blue-collar Democrats. They loved his dad. But they'll turn him out of office on the basis of this terrible bill, and he needs to hear that.
Two nights ago Beck was upbeat and said that starting soon the tide will change and he will give us a preview at his rally in The Villages, Fl. It will be televised. It is hard for him to always keep up the positive attitude. He is human and he probably knows of stuff that would curl our hair. He will be back up again tomorrow.
Don’t give up hope - no one in history knew when the time was right to act until it was. Imagine the founding fathers - meeting together, debating, I am sure some wanted to act and some wanted to deliberate and plan more. It eventually all comes together.
They want us to abandon all hope - If you are Harry Potter fans they are the death-eaters - sucking out all happiness and hope. Eat some Chocolate - it helps.
Tomorrow is another day. I am a movie buff as you can imagine.
Yep, they're definitely trending toward the "Naughty" list. They'll be fortunate to get only the charcoal in their stockings, and not the kind mixed with sulphur and potassium nitrate.
bump to your #22...Keep the pressure on. They ignore us at their peril.
He needs to be turned out, period. Regardless of his vote on this bill, and regardless of whether he gets fair warning or not. The people don't owe him anything but contempt.
It can too go away. There’s no way we can pay for this. Complete crash and defeat is the only way we are ever going to reset this bloated tick-pig-parasite-government, so if they pass this it will just bring it on sooner. Do I like it, no. But I know that communism always fails.
They think they’re too big to fail. They’re not. That’s a dealbreaker, ladies~!
*I* won’t pay for it
I say force them to pay for their bs by taxing those people using their bs. The amount you pay should be equal to the amount you use, no more... no less
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