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Strategies For Countering Radical Islamist Ideologies:
http://armedservices.house.gov/pdfs/TUTC021209/Ibrahim_Testimony021209.pdf ^ | Raymond Ibrahim

Posted on 11/18/2009 3:00:36 PM PST by ventanax5

The greatest hurdle Americans need to get over in order to properly respond to the growing threat of radical Islam is purely intellectual in nature; specifically, it is epistemological, and revolves around the abstract realm of “knowledge.” Before attempting to formulate a long-term strategy to counter radical Islam, Americans must first and foremost understand Islam, particularly its laws and doctrines, the same way Muslims understand it—without giving it undue Western (liberal) interpretations. This is apparently not as simple as expected: all peoples of whatever civilizations and religions tend to assume that other peoples more or less share in their worldview, which they assume is objective, including notions of right and wrong, good and bad. The mainstream interpretation, particularly in academia, of radical Islam is that it is a byproduct of various sorts of discontent (economic, political, social) and has little to do with the religion itself. To trace “jihadist” violence to Islam itself is discouraged; in academia, it may be treated as anathema.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaida; aq; islam; jihad; muslim; raymondibrahim; sourcetitlenoturl; wot

1 posted on 11/18/2009 3:00:36 PM PST by ventanax5
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2 posted on 11/18/2009 3:04:53 PM PST by the anti-liberal
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To: ventanax5

KILL ‘EM ALL !!

LET ALLAH SORT ‘EM OUT


3 posted on 11/18/2009 3:07:47 PM PST by maine yankee
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To: maine yankee

The answer to the problem is presented in the form of Italian opera by Paul Potts on YouTube. Translated from the Italian.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZzUSiFIIg8


4 posted on 11/18/2009 3:15:49 PM PST by doug from upland (Barack Hussein Obama - making Jimmy Carter look better every day)
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To: maine yankee

Seeems to be the only rational solution. Kill the MF’ers!


5 posted on 11/18/2009 3:20:07 PM PST by refermech
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To: doug from upland

Doug you naughty boy. :-)


6 posted on 11/18/2009 3:22:35 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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7 posted on 11/18/2009 3:36:43 PM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: ventanax5

The first thing we need to do is quit abstracting the obvious, and intellectualizing the simple. Islam is bad. Islam is dangerous. Islam deserves our due diligence, or Islam will hurt us. Islam is the source of radical Islam, the source of terrorism. While every Muslim is not a terrorist, nor every Islamic state a terrorist state, every Muslim is potentially dangerous, and every Islamic state is potentially a terrorist state, because Islam is the source of terrorism. ...Does this mean that other sources of terrorism don’t exist? No. It only means that other sources aren’t relevant to this debate, which at the moment involves our military and its members. For instance, an IRA sympathizer in the US military poses little or no threat, so long as he isn’t stationed around British interest. I dare say an environmentalist wacko in uniform isn’t much of a threat in his military surroundings. On the other hand, an IRA sympathizer in the British army, especially one who voices his opposition to Britain, should be watched closely. Intellectual debates about the cause, justification or the meaning of IRA tensions would be a foolish distraction for the officers in charge of that soldier. A Muslim in the US military, especially one who voices his pro terrorist, anti American sentiments, should be watched closely, discharged or disposed of on a training mission, before he hurts someone. Discussions about degrees of Islam, what is radical, what is not, are idiotic. Islam is a mental illness, a psychological, emotional and spiritual sickness posing as a religion. Some people are effected by it more than others, and the effects on some groups differ from the effects on other groups, but it is an illness that can mentally damage anyone, and those damaged individuals or groups are dangerous.


8 posted on 11/18/2009 4:07:47 PM PST by pallis
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In America we have a saying, "He got religion," when we see someone who was previously a notorious sinner start going to church, reading the Bible, and singing in the choir. That's what a Christian does when he "gets religion."

Unfortunately, when a Muslim "gets religion," he starts obeying the Koran, and starts killing infidels.

For a Moslem, Sudden Jihad Syndrome is the equivalent of singing in the choir.

9 posted on 11/18/2009 4:25:23 PM PST by JoeFromSidney
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To: ventanax5
Nice find. Thanks for posting it!

I highly recommend Raymond Ibrahim's The Al Qaeda Reader.

10 posted on 11/18/2009 8:26:40 PM PST by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: ventanax5

Uh...no.

“has nothing to do with the religion itself”...??????

ARE We are talking about 1500 YEARS of “innappropriate pre-traumatic-post-mid-life-crisis-neurosis-of-reference-malignant-narcissistic-paranoid-self-loathing-premature-potty-training-unfulfilled-inner-child-shaming” behavior then?

I beg to differ. It’s the religion itself. I’m sorry.


11 posted on 11/19/2009 5:45:11 AM PST by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: ventanax5
This education clearly is not going to begin in our universities; not in our schools; not in our MSM and not in any majority of Christian Churches and not in many synogues. And we know, despite heinous unfoldings; not in our Military - for those most 'up close and personal' with authentic jihad and it's jihadists.

Am just wondering; where this education might begin. . .

12 posted on 11/19/2009 8:06:17 AM PST by cricket
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To: pallis

Can I summarize?

“Tell the truth about Islam”


13 posted on 11/19/2009 8:08:11 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: ventanax5

http://www.islam-watch.org/LeavingIslam/index.html


14 posted on 11/21/2009 12:12:54 PM PST by ventanax5
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