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Obama claims 650,000 jobs “saved or created” via Porkulus

Posted on 10/30/2009 7:54:27 AM PDT by wingsof liberty

Further analysis on this story from Ed Morrissey:

posted at 9:30 am on October 30, 2009 by Ed Morrissey Share on Facebook | printer-friendly By which we should deduce that over a million jobs got saved or created, indirectly, according to the White House. The official report will come out later today, but Jake Tapper grabs the advance leak from the White House and runs it down. Pay very close attention to the sources of this data:

The Obama administration’s $787 billion stimulus bill directly saved or created about 650,000 jobs as of the end of last month, administration officials announced this morning.

The numbers come from Congressionally-mandated reports submitted earlier this month by tens of thousands of state and local governments, private companies, colleges, universities, and community organizations nationwide, administration officials said, with the majority of the funds coming from state governments. Factoring jobs indirectly created from the stimulus — not reflected in these numbers — an administration official says in a statement that “because these reports show that less than half of the spending through that date created or saved about 650,000 jobs, they confirm government and private forecaster’s estimates that overall Recovery Act spending has created and saved at least 1 million jobs.”

Moreover, the administration emphasized, these reports do not reflect the job impact of the stimulus plan’s tax cuts, direct payments to individuals, and grants and awards of amounts under $25,000 per recipient. Nor, officials cautioned, do they reflect the indirect job impact of the funds, such as when employers for stimulus projects hired to meet new demand or when hired workers spent their paychecks.

The “majority of funds” came from state governments because Porkulus distributed the money in block grants to the states. What did the states do with that money? They did save jobs, but primarily bureaucratic jobs. States used the money to temporarily paper over budget gaps which would have forced the layoffs of state employees, which should have been a necessary step in slimming down state-level spending.

The administration will claim that it saved the jobs of teachers, police officers, and firefighters with the data submitted by the states. Indeed, we have already seen this in New Hampshire, which listed almost all of its “saved or created” jobs from their education system. What I wrote at the time is just as applicable now: In looking at the table on the last page of the report, it becomes clear that New Hampshire and the federal government directed the money primarily at politically sensitive government jobs. Over two-thirds of the jobs are in the Department of Education, and another 745 in “government services.” Directing the money there allowed New Hampshire to avoid the politically difficult job of downsizing and streamlining in response to the downturn in revenues during the recession. The White House can claim that they saved the job of teachers, police officers, and firefighters whose jobs were never in jeopardy, and New Hampshire avoided cutting jobs elsewhere by shifting the money to cover budget shortfalls.

Meanwhile, what happens to these jobs when Porkulus runs out? Almost none of these jobs are established on new economic growth. They’re either jobs that New Hampshire has to fund anyway (teachers, police officers, firefighters) or one-off project jobs that will disappear when the money does.

No one was going to have a mass layoff of police officers and teachers in New Hampshire or anywhere else. The jobs really at risk were administrative jobs within state government, primarily union jobs (in large part represented by Obama’s ally, the SEIU), as states had to confront an economic reality of lower revenue and rising spending.

Porkulus provided a one-time method of ignoring that reality for a few months by burdening the entire nation with the bad policy decisions of the individual states. But all that did was to delay that day of reckoning, not eliminate it. When the grant money runs out, those states will still have to make tough decisions on the size and costs of their bureaucracies. They will still have to either raise taxes or start trimming their payrolls, and it won’t be the teacher or the firefighter who gets the pink slip. Porkulus will do the same thing that Cash for Clunkers did, which was to postpone the inevitable — and cost us a fortune in doing so. Update: By the way, it was almost two months ago when the administration first claimed it had saved or created one million jobs. I guess nothing much happened after September 10th.

Read more at http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/30/obama-claims-650000-jobs-saved-or-created-via-porkulus/


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhoeconomy; bhostimulus; economy; jobs; porculus; porkulus; unemployment
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So not only were the saved or created jobs those of beauracrats, but they will again be in jeopardy once the funds run dry. How much truth vs. spin will we get on this from the lamestream media? Not much aside from Fox. Hey, at least Tappers on the job.
1 posted on 10/30/2009 7:54:27 AM PDT by wingsof liberty
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To: wingsof liberty

I thought Hamas and terrorists did not count....


2 posted on 10/30/2009 7:55:32 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: wingsof liberty

Why only 650,000? As long as they’re pulling these numbers out of their asses, why not say 6,500,000?

The 49 out of 50 states with higher unemployment now than then is just another ‘inconvenient truth’...


3 posted on 10/30/2009 7:56:40 AM PDT by bigbob
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4 posted on 10/30/2009 7:57:22 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: wingsof liberty

Bhagdad Bob can’t compete with these idiots.


5 posted on 10/30/2009 7:59:37 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: wingsof liberty
650,000 jobs for 787 BILLION = $1.2 MILLION for EACH job.

What a bargain!

6 posted on 10/30/2009 8:05:44 AM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: wingsof liberty

Fantasy math.


7 posted on 10/30/2009 8:06:45 AM PDT by Gator113 (Obamba, Reid, Pelosi, the socialist triad.)
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To: wingsof liberty

Obama spokeperson Tommy Flanagan(fla-nay-gun):

Our stimulus has created 650 thous....no. Our stimulus package has created 650 mill..... uh make that 650 billion new jobs. Yeah. That’s the ticket. The stimulus has created 650 BILLION new jobs.


8 posted on 10/30/2009 8:06:49 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: wingsof liberty

On a similar note, my investment strategy created/saved $100,000,000,000 this year but I also lost $100,000,010,000 so...


9 posted on 10/30/2009 8:08:21 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: darkwing104

They don’t make a meter for this magnitude of BS!....................


10 posted on 10/30/2009 8:11:19 AM PDT by Red Badger (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Red Badger
I'll have to re-engineer it...First it will have to be hardened for Thermonuclear BS levels...


11 posted on 10/30/2009 8:14:12 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: wingsof liberty

That would be 13,000 new jobs per state. Where are they?


12 posted on 10/30/2009 8:17:48 AM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: wingsof liberty

Does that liar realize that his own website, recovery.gov, shows 30,383 jobs from the pork spending bill? And, that still includes the errors AP uncovered of 5,000 jobs and they have only touched the surface of auditing that thing?


13 posted on 10/30/2009 8:24:13 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: wingsof liberty
Shouldn't this thread be in the "Humor" section?

/end sarcasm

14 posted on 10/30/2009 8:32:05 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (If healthcare reform is passed, 41 years old will be the new 65 YO.)
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To: wingsof liberty

650,000 jobs created or saved in how many months and how much $$?

Meanwhile, unemployment claims for that same time period was how many times that number ... in fact, I remember reading half a million jobs were being lost each month.

BAWAHAHAHA

Pathetic.


15 posted on 10/30/2009 8:32:27 AM PDT by 08bil98z24 (The WOD is unconstitutional ------>>> NObama)
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To: wingsof liberty

Obama did save 650,000 jobs... IN CHINA!!!!!


16 posted on 10/30/2009 8:33:09 AM PDT by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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To: Proud2BeRight

The only news article on the net saying this is a downright LIE cannot be posted on FR because it is copyrighted. (See Drudge right side of his page)


17 posted on 10/30/2009 8:33:28 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: capt. norm

Yeah, right. There’s no way each of these 650,000 are earning $1.2 million. Liars in the White House are so stupid.


18 posted on 10/30/2009 8:35:48 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (If healthcare reform is passed, 41 years old will be the new 65 YO.)
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To: wingsof liberty

“So not only were the saved or created jobs those of beauracrats, but they will again be in jeopardy once the funds run dry.”

That won’t be a problem, the Dems (and maybe Snowe and Collins) will just appropriate more and Bambi will happily sign the bill into law. Get ready for Porkulus II.


19 posted on 10/30/2009 8:41:47 AM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: wingsof liberty; All
"Obama claims 650,000 jobs “saved or created” via Porkulus"


20 posted on 10/30/2009 8:53:43 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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