How Can Glenn Beck Be Right on So Much and Yet Still Believe the book of Mormon? (serious question)

[Scythian]

I'm a huge Beck fan, in fact I'm listening right now here

http://www.ksfa860.com/common/gap_streamer.php

but something really confuses me. It takes the ability to use real critical thinking to know what Beck (and most of us know about the state of the country and where we are heading). That is, we have the ability to discover the truth no matter how much the media or conventional wisdom try to hide it. Yet on Mormonism, Beck is cleary wrong. Any Christian knows that the book or momonism is severely flawed and that Joseph Smith was no prophet. How can Beck cut through all the chaff of what is going on in our world and come to the truth and yet believe the writings of Joseph Smith? It doesn't make sense? I'm not saying he's up to something secret, not by any means, it's just that he's so right about so many things and completely wrong on the most important thing. Now, he just said on the air that he believes Jesus is the Savior of the world and that he is Mormon.

I also think that because he is Mormon he is not attacked near as much if he was a Evangelical Bible only believer. Anyway, am I nutz or does Beck being a Mormon seem bizarre?

[Elsie]

Do NOT display such logic - it will be trumped by FEELINGS every time.

[Elsie]

Why would anyone listen to an apostate ???

See above reply

[Elsie]

Well!

You ARE posting back to me!

Still makes no sense; but it’s a start.

[Elsie]

Hey do me a favor..........I have an astronomy meeting next week - please let me know where the star “kolob” is would you?

I’m SURE than some enterprizing MORMON has done it by now - maybe more than ONCE!

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4HPIC_enUS349US349&q=name+a+star+registry

[Elsie]

No worries - mormons can believe ANYTHING they want. They just have zero right to call themselves "Christian".

Sure we can!!

Just like those FUNDAMENTALIST LDS in Texas can call themselves MORMON!

--MormonDude(Uh.... Headquarters has just informed me -again - that they can't. Only WE SLC folks are TRUE Mormons.)

[Elsie]

Are ya havin’ any luck with the namecalling and projection thing ya got goin’ here?

[Elsie]

And, just for you JACK Mormons that’ll NEVER get even CLOSE to Kolob; we have THIS little deal for you!

http://www.hellrealty.com/

[NautiNurse]

“We really aren’t obligated to answer everyone’s questions...”

[Elsie]

Well said!

Gave me a chuckle to start my day.

Time to get off this computer, feed the animals, read the paper and rant at the news found there.

See you guys later...

[svcw]

Could you please state where the hatred is?
I am just not getting what you are referring to.

[restornu]

You are not alone many can only see and measure through natural man state.

When one is a humble place with the Lord one is able to receive a witness from the Holy Ghost.

Come Thou Fount”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uslytyVrWFw

[ejonesie22]

Irony once again huh?

[ejonesie22]

Worth much more than 10 cents, indeed you have nailed the issues down quite well.

[gunnyg]

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Perhaps hes made his judgments from George Clooneys movie Good Night and Good Luck that continued the smear campaign against Senator Joseph McCarthy while lionizing leftist reporter Edward R. Murrow. Beck wasnt born in 1935, so perhaps he is unaware in that year the leftist National Education Association promoted a summer school held in Moscow, Russia, at which commissars (czars) were to teach and DID teach hundreds of American teachers. Some of the biggest names in American Education including now deceased John Dewey were sponsors of that school along with such members of the mass liberal media as Edward R. Murrow who later dispensed pro-Soviet disinformation.

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[NoRedTape]

"Come Thou Fount”.

Wow. Sounds so Smythian. Thy trouble with Joe Smith when he bungled the book of mormon and completely botched the 'book of Abraham' (Egyptians still laugh at his translations of that funeral rite), 'ol Joe had no gusto in his pathetic plagiaristic ways.

God warned us 1, 820 years before to "beware of false prophets".
Joe and Bring 'em Young were pathetically false prophets, is all. Laughable at best.

All mormon truth is here........by experts.

[ejonesie22]

Only “haters” use facts.

(I wonder if we can copyright the term...)

[NoRedTape]

"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) is one of the most active modern practitioners of missionary work, with over fifty thousand full-time missionaries worldwide, as of June 2007.”.

Well, mormons are famous for inflating their numbers, but hey - if they have even 10% of missionaries out there it is truly a worrisome thing. Why is it worrisome? (an understatement) because there are gullible people out there who will take to the kindness of the mormon folks and be talked into joining their cult. Those duped will not understand that mormonism is not "Christian", unless they read HERE or anywhere else on the net that explains just what mormonism truly is.

Here are some samplings. Quoted from here:

"Mormonism includes many other unusual teachings which you will probably not be told about until you have been in the church for a long time. These teachings are not revealed to investigators or new converts because those people are not yet considered ready to have more than "milk" as doctrine. The Mormons also probably realize that if investigators knew of these unusual teachings they would not join the church. In addition to those mentioned elsewhere in this article, the following are noteworthy:

• God was once a man like us.
• God has a tangible body of flesh and bone.
• God lives on a planet near the star Kolob.
• God ("Heavenly Father") has at least one wife, our "Mother in Heaven," but she is so holy that we are not to discuss her nor pray to her.
• Jesus was married.
• We can become like God and rule over our own universe.
• There are many gods, ruling over their own worlds.
• Jesus and Satan ("Lucifer") are brothers, and they are our brothers - we are all spirit children of Heavenly Father
• Jesus Christ was conceived by God the Father by having (natural relations) with Mary, who was temporarily his wife.
• We should not pray to Jesus, nor try to feel a personal relationship with him. "
  
  .............and much more from here.................
  
  
  

[SkyPilot]

A couple of tie wearing geeks on bicycles aren’t really a threat to force their religion on you, I was talking more about radical islamists and other sects who use violence against unbelievers. - - - - Rome2000

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When someone isn't comfortable and secure with their own faith, they can develop an overwhelming fear of another's beliefs, and perceived threats to their salvation. Give these insecure neurotics web access and a forum, and viola! - - - NautiNurse

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Rome2000: Anyone, anyone, who is deceiving a soul away from the true gospel, and from the saving power of Jesus Christ, is and enemy of the true God. A soul deceived and lost is a soul deceived and lost. Period. Violent tactics have been used by Mormons in the past, and are used by Islam in the past and present. Evil works that way. A person who does not know Christ, answers the doorbell, and is led astray is just as lost as a person who was converted to Islam in prison. Lucifer no doubt (and he is real) smiles at both tactics and false teachings. Islam actually acknowledges Jesus in the Koran, and Smith manipulated and twisted the holy scriptures for his own selfish purposes - should that make me admire either of them? Of course not. That is why Paul warned against this so strongly.

I say this in order that no one may delude you with plausible arguments. For though I am absent in body, yet I am with you in spirit, rejoicing to see your good order and the firmness of your faith in Christ. Therefore, as you received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in him, rooted and built up in him and established in the faith, just as you were taught, abounding in thanksgiving. See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.

Colossians 2: 4-8

NautiNurse: "comfortable and secure with their own faith." How deluded you are. Charles Manson was secure with what he believed. So was Jim Jones. Both were so "secure and comfortable" that they had no problem committing mass murder. The question is, what faith? What God? Every faith must answer the questions of origin, meaning, and destiny. If your faith is rooted in a man who was a serial fornicator, adulterer, liar, and swindler who sold phony 3 dollar bills in one of the most horrific ponzi schemes of that era, perhaps you should do some self examination of who and what you are blindly following.

Joseph Smith's Kirtland Bank Failure

Christ's gospel is true. His sacrifice was and is sufficient.

Anything else is rubbish.

[NautiNurse]

Quit your bellyaching to me. You take my statement out of context, call me deluded and disgorge kooky associations to Charles Manson and Jim Jones. You actually think a competent person is supposed to take you seriously. ROFLMAO!

Your unhinged phobias are your own personal nightmares, not mine.

Have a nice day.

[SkyPilot]

A couple of days ago, I was driving and heard the Dennis Prager radio program. He had on a guest who was exposing Islam, and what is really written in the Koran. She is under great attack for what she is doing.

One of the more poignant things she said was this: in order to understand how Muslims justify their outrageous behavior, all one has to do is to understand the true biography of Muhammad. Once you do that, we can understand how this horrible man's crimes are applied today by people who emulate "The Prophet" and can commit evil on a scale unconstrained by any moral precept.

The Truth about Muhammad by Robert Spencer

In the same vein, I suggest that to understand the motivation of Mormonism, one only has to research the true biography of "The Prophet" Joseph Smith.

The Truth About Mormonism and Joseph Smith

There are parallel there (rape, pedophilia, manipulation, paranoia, violence, etc) that are striking.