Posted on 10/26/2009 3:42:44 AM PDT by jay099
Here is a list of government and civilian websites that require a long form birth certificate.
1.) Snyder County, PA requires a long form birth certificate to obtain a US passport for anyone 15 years of age or younger:
"Even with a previous passport - a LONG form birth certificate is required..."
http://www.snydercounty.org/snyder/cwp/view.asp?a=730&Q=408544
2.) In the state of Massachusetts, a long form birth certificate is required to obtain a passport:
"A long form birth certificate is required for obtaining a passport and for travel outside the country."
http://www.dighton-ma.gov/Public_Documents/DightonMA_Clerk/clerk?textPage=1
3.) Once again, the state of Massachusetts requires a long for birth certificate for "proof of citizenship":
"If you were born in the United States, then a LONG FORM birth certificate is required the long form must be certified with a raised seal (no photocopies)."
http://www.cityofmelrose.org/departments/assessing.htm
4.) In the state of Massachusetts, a long long for birth certificate is required in certain adoption cases:
"However, if grandchild is a dependent of a dependent under age 19, copy of grandchilds certified (Long Form) birth certificate is required."
http://www.townofmarshfield.org/public_documents/MarshfieldMA_HR/PCHG%20Rules.pdf
5.) In Laredo, Texas a long for birth certificate is required for passport or immigration purposes:
"The long form Birth Certificate is required for PASSPORT or IMMIGRATION purposes."
http://www.laredotexas.gov/health/Birth%20-%20Death%20Application%20Final%20English%20%20Spanish%20Revised%20January%202009.pdf
6.) Presenting a short form birth certificate to obtain health insurance at IMS Health is "not acceptable":
"Photocopy of dependent's birth certificate. Must be a complete birth certificate which includes both parents' names; short form birth certificate is not acceptable."
http://staging.dakotagrp.com/3756_IMS_enrollment_guide_web/enroll/
7.) The only type of birth certificate that is acceptable by the South Carolina Department of Health and Environmental Control is a long form birth certificate.
"The only type of birth certificate acceptable for travel is a birth certificate long form."
"A short form certification or birth card (cannot be used for travel)."
http://www.scdhec.gov/administration/vr/birth.htm
8.) And last of all, to play little league in San Dimas, California, you must present a (yep, you guessed it) long form birth certificate. An abstract, like Obama's COLB, is "not acceptable".
"Supply a certified birth record and proof of residence. Abstract birth certificate is Not acceptable."
http://www.leaguelineup.com/sdlittleleague/files/Registration%20Flyer%202008.pdf
So, if a short form birth certificate is not sufficient evidence of citizenship in any of these cases, then why would it be sufficient to be President of the United States?
I thought W was the first AA president.
0bama is a recovering alcoholic too? Who knew?
RE :”Forgive me if Im unimpressed by what the Washington lapdog press deliberately neglects to say.”
You mean FNC? they wont touch it. Only MSNBC wants you folks to be in the limelight.
RE :”As I said, you act like the mere fact that he can fog a mirror qualifies him for the presidency. “
That, and win the national election 2008, with a congressional election win too. That’s the most important part you want to ignore. Little late for the dirt, especially if it’s his parents.
But they still have them on file, and with a court order, produce either that original or a certified copy thereof. That change was made *after* the Certifigate controversy was well under way. They even made the Hawaiian Lands Program accept the abstract form, just to protect BHO's posterior.
So if he was 32 years old, and had only lived in the US for 8 years, as well as having been born in Australia of Australian citizens, that would be OK with you, just as long as he was elected by a large margin.
Actually $11.50 and 10-15 minutes. (+0.25 for each additional copy)
Maybe because "all pigs are equal"... but a pig with lipstick is even MORE equal then us "ORDINARY" pigs.
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Well chances are that if all that were true he wouldn't have been elected at all. So your ‘What if” is not valid.
But if he's the first AA president and gets elected by a wide margin because the other party is seen as losers, and you cant prove anything, and you claim he cant be president because you haven't seen his long form BC, and you claim that the constitution calls for his long form BC(which I kniow it doesnt) , I'd say I can see why you are treated as poison
Thanks Null. Twisting things out of context seems to be an artform with COLB trolls.
You are being dense on purpose. You know exactly what I mean about DHHL requiring the long form until the DHR REMOVED the availability of the long form, thereby forcing a change on DHHL requirements.
I've received FRmail from several different people who have mentioned this possiblility.
According to Janice Okubo, Communications Director for the Hawaii State Department of Health, Hawaii went paperless in 2001 and that was the last time that long form certificates were issued.
http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html
In any event, the Attorney General of Hawaii, Mark Bennett can seek a subpoena for Obama’s original birth records at any time under Hawaii law. Bennett has just chosen not to do so.
*shrug* My state requires a notarized statement that it’s really me asking, else amy munchkin could get my Long Form BC. I included that and the assorted running around costs and generous padding for time ‘wasted’...
What exactly do you mean? I've never heard anything about a drinking problem.
I think that is merely a symptom of a deeper underlying mental condition.
Someone who thinks MSNBC isn't a Washington lapdog and that Fox is, has other less subtle problems...
So the requirements of the Constititution are poison?
Well you might be right, if it is ever adjudicated that he is NOT a Natural Born Citizen, as the Constitution requires a President to be, you'll see REAL poison.
RE :”So the requirements of the Constititution are poison? “
Sorry, ‘birth certificate’ is mentioned no place in the US constitution. That’s another birth-certificater myth.
They started issuing the abstract as the "standard option" in 2001, that's true. But they only stopped not issuing a certified copy of the long form upon request in early summer of 2009. They only changed the website of the Hawaiian Home Lands program to reflect that the long form was no longer available about that same time. Now if the long form *really* had not been available after 2001, don't you think that website, which contained instructions on how to get the long form, would have been changed before summer of 2009?
It's not just about his birth. Read "The Obama Timeline" to see what else he is hiding.
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